Italics get used to express important semantic meaning, so unicode should support them
kenwhistler at sonic.net
Mon Dec 21 13:42:54 CST 2020
On 12/21/2020 11:05 AM, abrahamgross--- via Unicode wrote:
> The only reason why things like_italics_ or*italics* are around is because of the lack of real italics. I would go as far as to say that the very existence of*italics* in plain text shows that theres a real need for italics when writing plain text.
> This is a workaround around a real problem of the lack of italics if I've ever seen one…
Actually, simple markup conventions like that mostly date from early
days of email, when plain text (and usually just ASCII at that) were all
you got. (By the way, the most usual interpretation of those is
_underscore_, /italic/, and *bold*, but whatever.)
Nowadays, presto chango, most email clients support rich text (in HTML,
usually), and you get to _underscore_, /italicize/, and *bold* your text
correctly whenever you want to, and even change the font size to SHOUT,
if you want.
Some folks here seem to be viewing the "problem" here the wrong way
round. The issue isn't that plain text cannot preserve all the "meaning"
conveyed in writing systems. When dealing with meaning conveyed with
conventions that involve styling, font change, color and such, you
simply depend on properly tiered text architecture and build support for
that in rich text and markup. It is ass-backwards to try to continue to
clot up plain text as the backbone of text interchange by trying to
import all the complications of styling directly into it as if that
representation were a plain text issue -- it isn't.
Instead the *real* problem here is that in some communication contexts
that should be supporting rich text, implementations are still
restricting people to plain text when what they really want is easily
accessible and dependable rich text to convey more nuances accurately
(or just to be more expressive). If Twitter is half-assed about
supporting text styling, then direct your concerns in the proper
direction. You don't fix Twitter's or texting apps' use of text by
trying to force styling into the Unicode encoding of plain text.
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