Japanese plurals

Mark Davis ☕️ mark at macchiato.com
Wed Dec 1 17:52:14 CST 2021


Thanks,

Mark


On Wed, Dec 1, 2021 at 3:49 PM Edwin Hoogerbeets <ehoogerbeets at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Actually, I meant for Japanese specifically. I was not suggesting to
> modify the rules for any other languages.
>
> The plural rules in common/supplemental/plurals.xml state that Japanese
> belongs to a group of languages that only supports the "other" category.
> Based on the example, I thought maybe we should consider moving it to the
> group of languages (along with English!) where it supports both the "one"
> and the "other" categories where "one" means "exactly 1" and "other" is
> everything else. For most Japanese phrases, there would be no difference
> between the "one" and "other" string, but for strings with demonstratives
> in them, there could be.
>
> Mark, I will file a jira and the committee can consider it.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Edwin
>
> On 12/1/21 3:41 PM, Markus Scherer wrote:
>
> On Wed, Dec 1, 2021 at 3:36 PM Mark Davis ☕️ <mark at macchiato.com> wrote:
>
>> The CLDR plural rules are intended for any instance where the change in a
>> number requires a change in a message; in some languages changes are
>> required in verbs, or in references. So it appears that this is an example
>> of where Japanese rules may require changes.
>>
>> The suggestion that Markus is recommending is a good workaround for the
>> issue that you have, but we should consider whether to change the plural
>> rules.
>>
>
> I would think that in most languages there is some special wording for
> exactly-number-1, like in both the English and Japanese examples in this
> thread.
> What you are suggesting amounts to making sure that the plural rules for
> every language have a plural keyword for that.
> I would rather we keep recommending =1.
>
> markus
>
>
>
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