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Steffen Nurpmeso steffen at
Thu Jul 23 09:59:48 CDT 2020

Steffen Nurpmeso via Unicode wrote in
<20200720151407.ET24c%steffen at>:
 |Doug Ewell via Unicode wrote in
 ||Steffen Nurpmeso wrote:
 ||> The Mail Archive also mirrors/ed Unicode at
 ||> But it stops in April?  I surely got Unicode messages thereafter,
 ||> has it been actively unsubscribed?
 ||I suggest, in all seriousness, that Ken or Rick or somebody compose \
 ||a detailed FAQ about the Great Server Crash of 2020, something to which \
 ||we can point curious people instead of pointing them to the new archive \
 ||to hunt for clues. (Yes, there is a new archive: https://corp.unicode.or\
 |I surely can understand if an archive requires a login, looking at
 |my own tiny mailing-lists and the (spam) traffic that hits them.
 |It actully makes me even more thankful to be able to use those
 |wonderful public services like Gmane / Gmene / mail-archive which
 |also i use for many years.
 ||Currently the only item on the web site about the Great Crash, other \
 ||than the mail archive, is this quick note, written before the full \
 ||scope of loss was known:
 ||I was pretty sure someone had posted a lengthy, detailed description \
 ||of what happened, but if it was on the mailing list I can't find it \
 ||now, which is kind of my point.
 ||Especially with the rollout of the new Unicode home page and the relegat\
 ||ion of most non-marketing material to a "Technical Site," which occurred \
 ||not very long before the Great Crash, it may be reasonable for some \
 ||to assume (incorrectly) that changes to the mail archives or the loss \
 ||of previously available material via FTP might have been caused by \
 ||those intentional changes instead of the Great Crash.
 |Some subscribers seem to have been lost, or maybe they reject
 |.. but no, the list address is still the same and these services
 |subscribe and then just stay.  Maybe, nonetheless i mean, the
 | server address?  I will ask the mail-archive
 |people about that, but i am not in the position to fill in the
 |missing messages, i do not archivy anything i receive.

I want to point out that i am not stuck in some moderation queue,
but delivery is being refused for days:

  Jul 23 07:55:23 postfix/smtp[13127]: connect to[]:25: Connection refused
  Jul 23 07:55:23 postfix/smtp[13127]: B2EAF16059: to=<unicode at>, relay=none, delay=223106, delays=223106/0.02/0.14/0, dsn=4.4.1, status=deferred (connect to[]:25: Connection refused)

But, finally then:

  Jul 23 16:05:24 postfix/tlsproxy[13904]: CONNECT to []:25
  Jul 23 16:05:24 postfix/smtp[13903]: Untrusted TLS connection established to[]:25: TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256
  Jul 23 16:05:26 postfix/smtp[13903]: B2EAF16059: to=<unicode at>,[]:25, delay=252509, delays=252506/0.01/1.9/1.1, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 2.0.0 06NE5O65027564 Message accepted for delivery)
  Jul 23 16:05:26 postfix/qmgr[9144]: B2EAF16059: removed
  Jul 23 16:05:26 postfix/tlsproxy[13904]: DISCONNECT []:25


|Der Kragenbaer,                The moon bear,
|der holt sich munter           he cheerfully and one by one
|einen nach dem anderen runter  wa.ks himself off
|(By Robert Gernhardt)

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