About cultural/languages communities flags

Joan Montané joan at montane.cat
Mon Feb 9 15:18:23 CST 2015

Sorry, my reply was sended CC: to Unicode ML,

My apologies,

Joan Montané

2015-02-09 22:11 GMT+01:00 Joan Montané <joan at montane.cat>:

> Hi all,
> I am the one who made the request to tweemoji Github.
> 2015-02-09 20:16 GMT+01:00 Markus Scherer <markus.icu at gmail.com>:
>> On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 9:54 AM, Andrea Giammarchi <
>> andrea.giammarchi at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > if a cultural/language TLD is typed with Unicode RIS, then show the
>>> flag for these culture/language:
>> This does not work. The "Unicode RIS" are defined to be used in pairs,
>> with semantics according to corresponding ISO 3166 alpha2 codes. In your
>> examples, each successive pair will encode a flag.
> AFAIK, this is done in font side. Emoji flags are just ligatures, so a
> font can provide a ligature for 4 RIS characters. This is not an issue here.
> I agree some strange behaviour can appear if a 3 RIS string, take CAT, is
> shown in a system with only 2 RIS support (a Canadian will appear followed
> by a T).
> If you want to represent every flag of every locality, you first have to
>> figure out how to catalog and label them. You are mentioning provinces, one
>> level down from nation states; I guess there are thousands of them. In much
>> of Europe, every little village
>> <http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butterstadt> has its own flag and coat of
>> arms. Where do you want the text encoding and fonts to stop?
> I don't request flag support for every flag in the world. I requested
> flags for culture/language communities *with* an approved TLD (Top Level
> Domain).
> I know flags are an issue, and I know flags represents territories, not
> languages, but I think some support should be done for these active
> communities. As I pointed, some country flag collections expand with a fews
> non-independent country.  See [1], [2] and [3] (search for Scottish or
> Welsh flag). You can check this [4] petition requesting Catalan flag on
> WhatsApp.
> So, there is a demand and they are used in real world. What's the way for
> encoding them in Unicode standard?
> Thanks,
> Joan Montané
> [1] http://www.famfamfam.com/lab/icons/flags/
> [2] https://www.gosquared.com/resources/flag-icons/
> [3] http://www.sherv.net/flag-emoticons.html
> [4]
> https://www.change.org/p/whatsapp-inc-incloure-la-senyera-de-catalunya-a-whatsapp
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