What is the codepoint / sequence of codepoints to generate this symbol?

Vinodh Rajan via Indic indic at unicode.org
Mon Jan 13 04:11:07 CST 2020


It's this character:

ᳬं 1CEC VEDIC SIGN ANUSVARA VAMAGOMUKHA WITH TAIL with Anusvara

The word ought to be spelled: तपाᳬंसि

I have shown the image below, in case your OS/font doesn't render it
properly.

[image: text - 2020-01-13T110937.823.png]

V




On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 9:58 AM आलोक कुमार (नौ दो ग्यारह) via Indic <
indic at unicode.org> wrote:

> Thanks for writing back.
>
>>
>>
>> (1) completely missing/omitting the complex glyph and replacing with a
>> simpler anusvara:
>>
>> https://upanishads.org.in/upanishads/3/1/2/15
>>
>>
>>
>> सर्वे वेदा यत्पदमामनन्ति तपांसि
>>
>
> This is the version I would use as a compulsion, for lack of an option to
> type the symbol on say my mobile keyboard.
>
>
>
>>
>> (2) rendering as -rtha- :
>>
>>
>>
>> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a3/%E0%A4%B8%E0%A4%A4%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%B0%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%A5_%E0%A4%AA%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%B0%E0%A4%95%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%B6.pdf
>>
>>
>> सर्वे वेदा यत्पदमामनन्ति तपार्थसि
>>
>>
>>
> This is the pdf whose OCR output I am currently verifying on wikisource :)
> Please see Page 16 of the PDF. Line 13 uses U+A8F3, and Line 15 uses the
> symbol I asked about.
> Where did you find the encoding as तपार्थसि in the document? I believe
> that would be incorrect, whereas (1) and (3) are still closer
> approximations to the pronunciation.
>
>
>
>> (3) as the candrabindu-virama codepoint (U+A8F3), despite visual
>>  variance with the scanned image provided:
>>
>>
>> https://sanskritdocuments.org/doc_upanishhat/katha.html?lang=sa
>>
>>
>> सर्वे वेदा यत्पदमामनन्ति तपाꣳसि (ँ् > ꣳ)
>>
>
> Yes, it has been used, but if you see the example of (2), both the symbols
> have been used in the same page, it's quite likely they are different from
> each other.
>
>
>>
>> Which is “correct”?
>> I don’t know, but... I’d likely try and look at other handwritten
>> manuscripts that wouldn’t be digitally constrained...
>> A question for you might be, “what makes the provided image’s typesetting
>> more “valid” than the others?”
>>
>>
> I've tried to look for a manuscript, but wasn't able to.
> However in response to the question, I have been seeing this text in hymns
> since the past 30 years (not a long time I agree considering the age of the
> text :) ) and have been asked to pronounce them differently by my elders.
>
> Will look for a manuscript again.
> However I did find an explanation of vedic Pronunciation at
> http://www.aryagan.org/pdf/literature/ved/Ved-Path-Niyam.pdf
>
> Please see item 3 and 4
>
> Item 3 is the symbol in question, called, in that document, अयोगवाह ह्रस्व
> (ह्रस्व = short)
> Item 4 is the ꣳ (U+A8F3), called, in that document, अयोगवाह दीर्घ (दीर्घ =
> long)
>
> I could translate the Ved-Path-Niyam document to English if it helps, also
> attaching it.
>
> Hope this bring me closer to an answer to the original query
>
> Thanks again for your response,
> आलोक
>
>
>
>> cheers,
>>
>> [Apologies for any typos – typed with my thumbs and subject to the most
>> amusing auto-correct (or not), i.e. typed on my iPhone]
>>
>> On Jan 12, 2020, at 21:10, आलोक कुमार (नौ दो ग्यारह) via Indic <
>> indic at unicode.org> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Can anyone help me with the unicode representation of the symbol after
>> the पा in the fourth word in the attached file?
>>
>> If you have trouble viewing it, I posted it online at
>> https://twitter.com/alok/status/1216563416501903360/photo/1 as well.
>>
>> https://sanskritdocuments.org/doc_upanishhat/katha.html?lang=sa encodes
>> the fourth word as तपाꣳसि
>>
>> Which means that the symbol is equated to U+A8F3. That may well be
>> correct, or it may not be, as the visual representation is different.
>>
>> Much appreciated, thanks.
>>
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>> <स्क्रीन शॉट, २०२०-०१-१३ ०८.५७.४५ पर.png>
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