What is the codepoint / sequence of codepoints to generate this symbol?

आलोक कुमार (नौ दो ग्यारह) via Indic indic at unicode.org
Mon Jan 13 02:56:39 CST 2020


Thanks for writing back.

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> (1) completely missing/omitting the complex glyph and replacing with a
> simpler anusvara:
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> https://upanishads.org.in/upanishads/3/1/2/15
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> सर्वे वेदा यत्पदमामनन्ति तपांसि
>

This is the version I would use as a compulsion, for lack of an option to
type the symbol on say my mobile keyboard.



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> (2) rendering as -rtha- :
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> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a3/%E0%A4%B8%E0%A4%A4%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%B0%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%A5_%E0%A4%AA%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%B0%E0%A4%95%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%B6.pdf
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> सर्वे वेदा यत्पदमामनन्ति तपार्थसि
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This is the pdf whose OCR output I am currently verifying on wikisource :)
Please see Page 16 of the PDF. Line 13 uses U+A8F3, and Line 15 uses the
symbol I asked about.
Where did you find the encoding as तपार्थसि in the document? I believe that
would be incorrect, whereas (1) and (3) are still closer approximations to
the pronunciation.



> (3) as the candrabindu-virama codepoint (U+A8F3), despite visual  variance
> with the scanned image provided:
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> https://sanskritdocuments.org/doc_upanishhat/katha.html?lang=sa
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> सर्वे वेदा यत्पदमामनन्ति तपाꣳसि (ँ् > ꣳ)
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Yes, it has been used, but if you see the example of (2), both the symbols
have been used in the same page, it's quite likely they are different from
each other.


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> Which is “correct”?
> I don’t know, but... I’d likely try and look at other handwritten
> manuscripts that wouldn’t be digitally constrained...
> A question for you might be, “what makes the provided image’s typesetting
> more “valid” than the others?”
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I've tried to look for a manuscript, but wasn't able to.
However in response to the question, I have been seeing this text in hymns
since the past 30 years (not a long time I agree considering the age of the
text :) ) and have been asked to pronounce them differently by my elders.

Will look for a manuscript again.
However I did find an explanation of vedic Pronunciation at
http://www.aryagan.org/pdf/literature/ved/Ved-Path-Niyam.pdf

Please see item 3 and 4

Item 3 is the symbol in question, called, in that document, अयोगवाह ह्रस्व
(ह्रस्व = short)
Item 4 is the ꣳ (U+A8F3), called, in that document, अयोगवाह दीर्घ (दीर्घ =
long)

I could translate the Ved-Path-Niyam document to English if it helps, also
attaching it.

Hope this bring me closer to an answer to the original query

Thanks again for your response,
आलोक



> cheers,
>
> [Apologies for any typos – typed with my thumbs and subject to the most
> amusing auto-correct (or not), i.e. typed on my iPhone]
>
> On Jan 12, 2020, at 21:10, आलोक कुमार (नौ दो ग्यारह) via Indic <
> indic at unicode.org> wrote:
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> Can anyone help me with the unicode representation of the symbol after the
> पा in the fourth word in the attached file?
>
> If you have trouble viewing it, I posted it online at
> https://twitter.com/alok/status/1216563416501903360/photo/1 as well.
>
> https://sanskritdocuments.org/doc_upanishhat/katha.html?lang=sa encodes
> the fourth word as तपाꣳसि
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> Which means that the symbol is equated to U+A8F3. That may well be
> correct, or it may not be, as the visual representation is different.
>
> Much appreciated, thanks.
>
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