UCD in XML or in CSV? (is: UCD in YAML)

Philippe Verdy via Unicode unicode at unicode.org
Fri Sep 7 13:19:58 CDT 2018


See also this page:

https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2018/05/09/announcing-windows-10-insider-preview-build-17666/

Le ven. 7 sept. 2018 à 20:18, Philippe Verdy <verdy_p at wanadoo.fr> a écrit :

> That version has been announced in the Windows 10 Hub several weeks ago. I
> think it is part of the 1809 version (for now RS5 prerelease for Insiders)
> that may be deployed in the final release coming soon.
> I hope you'll have also the option to switch the newline convention after
> loading and before saving to convert these newlines. and may be define the
> new default preference, so we will finally forget the CRLF convention.
>
> I have it working quite well inthe Insider fast ring.
>
> In all IDE editors however (including Developer Studio), the 2 or 3
> conventions were still available since long.
>
> Le ven. 7 sept. 2018 à 20:04, J Decker <d3ck0r at gmail.com> a écrit :
>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 7, 2018 at 10:58 AM Philippe Verdy via Unicode <
>> unicode at unicode.org> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Le jeu. 6 sept. 2018 à 19:11, Doug Ewell via Unicode <
>>> unicode at unicode.org> a écrit :
>>>
>>>> Marcel Schneider wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > BTW what I conjectured about the role of line breaks is true for CSV
>>>> > too, and any file downloaded from UCD on a semicolon separator basis
>>>> > becomes unusable when displayed straight in the built-in text editor
>>>> > of Windows, given Unicode uses Unix EOL.
>>>>
>>>> It's been well known for decades that Windows Notepad doesn't display
>>>> LF-terminated text files correctly. The solution is to use almost any
>>>> other editor. Notepad++ is free and a great alternative, but there are
>>>> plenty of others (no editor wars, please).
>>>>
>>>
>>> This has changed recently in Windows 10, where the builtin Notepad app
>>> now parses text files using LF only correctly (you can edit and save using
>>> the same convention for newlines, which is now autodetected; Notepad still
>>> creates new files using CRLF and saves them after edit using CRLF).
>>>
>>> I would love to have a notepad that handled \n.
>> My system is up to date.
>> What update must I get to have notepad handle newline only files?
>> (and I dare say notepad is the ONLY program that doesn't handle either
>> convention, command line `edit` and `wordpad`(write) even handled them)
>>  I'm sure there exists other programs that do it wrong; but none I've
>> ever used or found, or written.
>>
>> Notepad now displays the newline convention in the status bar as "Windows
>>> (CRLF)" or "Unix (LF)" (like Notepad++), just before the line/column
>>> counters. There's still no preference interface to specify the default
>>> convention: CRLF is still the the default for new files.
>>>
>>> And no way to switch the convention before saving. In Notepad++ you do
>>> that with menu "Edit" > "Convert newlines" and select one of "Convert to
>>> Windows (CR+LF)", "Convert to Unix (LF)" or "Convert to Mac (CR)"
>>>
>>>
>>>
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