Curly Lips Code Point Proposal

Philippe Verdy verdy_p at wanadoo.fr
Wed Jan 25 10:51:13 CST 2017


I'd say that the current icon shown by Google for that character does not
mean anything to me, it lloks like a ghost of some grotesque creature,
possibly dancing, unrelated to any information desk, and not even a lady
(may be Google wanted it to be gender-neutral, as the character is not
encoded and named to mean a woman). So I doubt seriously it will be used
for its intended usage.

2017-01-25 5:44 GMT+01:00 Leonardo Boiko <leoboiko at namakajiri.net>:

> Undoubtedly so.  That's why U+1F481 INFORMATION DESK PERSON �� is listed
> with the keyword "sassy" in the Unicode emoji table (besides "tipping
> hand").  Which helps a lot, because the keywords are used by input methods
> to search characters; if no one bothered to keep track of how people are
> using emoji, then people would try looking for the "sassy" gesture and find
> nothing, and they'd have to learn that it's called "information desk
> person", even though no one uses it with this meaning.
>
> Precisely because language (and symbolic systems like emoji) are in flux,
> it's a good idea trying to document how it's used.
>
>
> 2017-01-25 2:35 GMT-02:00 Fritz Gheen <fgheen at gmail.com>:
>
>> "There are indeed already many emoji misused here and there..."
>>
>> I'd venture to say most emoji are divorced from their original intent.
>> Help Desk Lady is one of the most popular emoji...and I can't recall ever
>> seeing someone use it for that reason.  I personally use Rocket emoji
>> mostly to mean, "I'm taking-off from home."  And then there's aubergine
>> =)
>>
>> I'd like to think no emoji is "misused."  People employ emoji outside of
>> their original or intended meaning, and that's beautiful: language is
>> fluid; it evolves.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 12:39 AM, Andrea Giammarchi <
>> andrea.giammarchi at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I wouldn't stereotype "this community" already, as it's a single person
>>> request and maybe a single person common use case.
>>>
>>> However, I have seen mostly on Twitter the usage of :3 to indicate
>>> "engagement" in the sense of "interest", or "I'm digging it" but if there's
>>> a meaning widely recognised already internationally, I guess there's no
>>> point in using the proposed name, yet there's no code point to represent :3
>>>
>>> isn't it?
>>>
>>> Whatever it means, do we have a code point for it already?
>>>
>>> If we do, maybe that'd be already enough.
>>>
>>> There are indeed already many emoji misused here and there due different
>>> visual meaning in different cultures (the triumph face, as example, the one
>>> with steam from nose which is used as "furious face" in some culture)
>>>
>>> If there's no code point, being apparently this popular, should Unicode
>>> consider one?
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 5:12 PM, Leonardo Boiko <leoboiko at namakajiri.net
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> I find it curious that this community defines the ":3" emoji as "mmmm"
>>>> or "om nom nom".  In my circles it's quite the frequent emoticon/emoji, but
>>>> I've never seen it used this way.  Instead, they usually employ it as "cat
>>>> mouth" or "cat face", implying  the mood of cuteness, perkiness or
>>>> mischievousness. (This is distinct from U+1F431 CAT FACE in that it
>>>> represents a human making a cat-like mouth, not an actual cat.) Here are a
>>>> few images found through a web search for "cat face":
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Here's the relevant TVTropes article:
>>>> http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CatSmile
>>>>
>>>> (TVTropes, incidentally, is one of the many web forums which has a :3
>>>> textual emoji.)
>>>>
>>>> And the KnowYourMeme page:
>>>> http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/3-cat-face
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2017-01-24 14:39 GMT-02:00 Andrea Giammarchi <
>>>> andrea.giammarchi at gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> I'd like to bring to your attention a request, about a common emoticon,
>>>>> that has apparently no equivalent yet in the Emoji standard.
>>>>>
>>>>> This was a PR to the Twemoji project:
>>>>> https://github.com/twitter/twemoji/issues/199
>>>>>
>>>>> The author also created a proper PDF explaining all the reasons:
>>>>> Proposal for CURLY LIPS Emoji.pdf
>>>>> <https://github.com/twitter/twemoji/files/727077/Proposal.for.CURLY.LIPS.Emoji.pdf>
>>>>>
>>>>> I hope this can be considered in the near future as possible extra
>>>>> face.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks in advance for any sort of outcome.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best Regards
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
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