How to disable Indic syllable form editing in MS word

[Shriramana Sharma via Indic]

Normally each editors have their own behaviour decisions hard-coded based
on what the developers think is useful for end users, which differs. In
such matters, I find copy pasting between editors the only way to get the
best of both worlds.

On 07-Dec-2017 12:58 PM, "हरिराम via Indic" <indic at unicode.org> wrote:

> Sir,
>
> More rending problems found in
> Babelpad
>
> For example I copied following line from MS word 2007
>
> *वर्ष सितंबर*, *2017 की स्‍थिति के अनुसार राजभाषा कार्यान्वयन समिति की
> बैठकों की स्‍थिति  *
> *( लक्ष्‍य वर्ष में 4 बैठकें )*
>
> and pasted it in Babelpad
>
> But it shows wrongly as (Screenshot)
>
>
> *[image: Inline image 1]*
>
> so Babelpad is not a good Indic Editor like MS word.
>
> If you have any Trick/tool to temporarily disable the Indic Shaping Engine
> in MS word
> to enable character-level editing, Kindly inform.
>
> With regards.
>
>
> हरिराम
> प्रगत भारत <http://hariraama.blogspot.in>
>
> On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 8:46 AM, Kan!skA via Indic <indic at unicode.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Strongly Agree with Richard, It's not a layout related issue.
>>
>> You may use BabelPad, for your concerned issue.
>> http://www.babelstone.co.uk/Software/BabelPad.html
>>
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Kaniska PSS Nagraj
>> https://kanis.hk
>>
>>
>> On 07-Dec-17 4:49 AM, Richard Wordingham via Indic wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 6 Dec 2017 18:47:36 +0530
>>> हरिराम via Indic <indic at unicode.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> While working in MS word 2007, 2010 or higher
>>>>
>>>> When one try to Find & replace any particular Unicode Character
>>>> For Example
>>>> to replace all
>>>> 'ा' depended vowel AA
>>>> with
>>>> 'ि' depended vowel i
>>>>
>>>> it does not works.
>>>>
>>>> Only full syllable with ' ा' i.e. का, खा, गा, etc. has to be search
>>>> and replaced one by one with many repeats.
>>>>
>>>> This takes too much time and unnecessary repeats.
>>>>
>>>> ----
>>>> 2.
>>>>
>>>> When one try to delete a Indic Character with delete key putting the
>>>> cursor before a syllable, the right side entire syllable is being
>>>> deleted.
>>>>
>>>> How to delete a particular character instead of entire syllable?
>>>>
>>>> How to disable the Indic layout feature in MS word?
>>>>
>>>> Would anybody guide please?
>>>>
>>> Are you a real Indian?  UTS#29
>>> (https://www.unicode.org/reports/tr29/tr29-31.html) Section 3 Paragraph
>>> 1 strongly suggests that what you are trying to do is not natural.
>>>
>>> These particular behaviours you are complaining of annoy me
>>> intensely, but I'm a Westerner and so have no rights in these matters.
>>>
>>> Indic layout is not particularly guilty, though it makes editing
>>> clusters difficult.  SIL has a split cursor which attempts to address
>>> the issue, but I've only seen it in their Worldpad text editor.
>>> Another technique, which has been available in emacs (I'm unsure of the
>>> current status), enables one to move the cursor into a cluster Unicode
>>> character by character, and disables shaping across the cluster.  Even
>>> this will have shortcomings when working with two part vowels
>>> canonically equivalent to a single character - one won't know whether
>>> one has one character or two until one steps into the cluster.
>>>
>>> Emacs does, by default, provide what I consider the civilised behaviour,
>>> whereby pressing the delete key deletes the next character.  That makes
>>> my life much easier, as I deal with Indic scripts in which it is not at
>>> all unusual to have 3 or more marks attached to a single base character.
>>>
>>> Richard.
>>>
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