Comparison table with pre-CLDR locales

Elsebeth Flarup via CLDR-Users cldr-users at
Mon Jan 22 07:19:09 CST 2018

I actually managed to find the snapshots in the waybackmachine - here's an example with links to the comparison charts for all the Beta 1.0 locales:

And definitely some interesting differences between the original, surveyed platforms especially in the date format area.


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On November 10, 2017 5:05 PM, Steven R. Loomis <srl at> wrote:

> It's kind of a 'retrocomputing' project to get this to work again, but here is a snippet of Arabic diffs from about cldr 1.6.  Probably false positives and negatives here due to breakage. Some interesting things around date formats.
> On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 2:47 AM, Elsebeth Flarup via CLDR-Users <cldr-users at> wrote:
>> Thanks!
>> I am not looking for any specific locale category or vendor for that matter. I just wanted to include a few of the most glaring differences between platforms that existed before CLDR as an illustration of the fragmentation at that time.
>> I am fairly certain that the CLDR project started by collecting a snapshot of the data from as many platforms as possible, and then went through a process of converging on the most common formats for each locale at the time. I believe the comparison table I remember was either used during that process, or was at least a side product of it. I think it was up for several years (I remember referring to it a number of times). Unfortunately I don't even remember the URL used at the beginning of the CLDR project, otherwise the Wayback Machine might be able to help.
>> Thanks,
>> Elsebeth
>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>> Subject: Re: Comparison table with pre-CLDR locales
>>> Local Time: November 9, 2017 6:12 PM
>>> UTC Time: November 9, 2017 5:12 PM
>>> From: jan.lana at
>>> To: cldr-users at <cldr-users at>, Elsebeth Flarup <eflarup at>
>>> Quoting Elsebeth Flarup via CLDR-Users (2017-11-08 11:27:43)
>>>> I am preparing a CLDR training session, and as part of that I would like to
>>>> include a few specific examples of the differences that existed between locale
>>>> formats on various vendor-specific platforms prior to the widespread adoption
>>>> of CLDR.
>>>> I am fairly sure I remember an online table listing the locale formats from
>>>> AIX, Sun Solaris, etc. that were collected at the start of the CLDR project,
>>>> but I have been unable to find that table now. Does anybody remember the table,
>>>> and where it was located? Alternatively, does anybody know of any other source
>>>> that would have that kind of historical data?
>>>> Solaris migrated most of locales to CLDR in Solaris 10 Update Release 4
>>>> in 2007
>>>> (
>>>> But there are no public comparison reports from the time as far I know.
>>>> Is there any specific information you try to find?
>>>> regards,
>>> - Jan Lana
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