Charts (rough cut)

Marcel Schneider via CLDR-Users cldr-users at unicode.org
Tue Aug 21 18:30:08 CDT 2018


Philippe,

I’m sorry not to have joined in your proposal of pushing [!-#\&(-*,-/\:;?@\[\]§«»‐–—’“”†‡…] as a punctuation set, 
Clearly that made it difficult for TC to do anything for French here, the more as their attempt to make a compromise 
to be pushed through was not welcomed. In reality it was (better than nothing), just I didn’t acknowledge while responding.

Now I’m suggesting to discuss that here so TC can see why there is a latent “dispute” (OK, I see there are many 
“disputed items”, given a huge part of corrections I proposed weren’t accepted by fellow vetters).

There was a more complete punctuation set that was gaining traction: [!-#\&-*,-/\:;?@\[\]_§«»‐-―‘’“”†‡…‹›].
In comparison with that set, you are excluding the following characters:

― U+0027 APOSTROPHE. This is not preferred, but neither is U+0022 QUOTATION MARK that you keep 
    including. And you yourself are using the ASCII apostrophe when typing, due to its exclusive presence on 
    widespread keyboard layouts.

― U+005F LOW LINE. This is not more typically French than the NUMBER SIGN and the AT SIGN, both of 
    which you include. And you do have an underscore in your own e-mail address.

― U+2011 NON-BREAKING HYPHEN. See below.

― U+2012 FIGURE DASH

― U+2015 HORIZONTAL BAR

[I’ve lost comments and references on U+2012 and U+2015 by inadvertently hitting the shortcut closing the browser.
No doubt I was too detailed. Now I’ll post further information on request only.]

― U+2018 LEFT SINGLE QUOTATION MARK

― U+2039 SINGLE LEFT-POINTING ANGLE QUOTATION MARK

― U+203A SINGLE RIGHT-POINTING ANGLE QUOTATION MARK


Can anybody tell us why U+2011 NON-BREAKING HYPHEN is not default in every Latin-script using locale?

Obviously contributors and vetters are lacking guidance, because CLDR documentation is still a stub compared 
to what it could and should be.

I don’t actually have time to rewrite more parts of it, not even knowing whether TC will use suggested updates, 
or not.

In my belief, the engineering effort ought to be done basically by those who are in charge of maintaining the data.
I’m ready to contribute if there is a demand that I may cater for.


Regards,

Marcel



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