names, addresses, phone numbers

[Patrick Chew]

Erwin Hom and Mike McKenna were the two presenters.

cheers,
- Patrick

On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 5:02 PM, Cameron Dutro <cameron at lumoslabs.com>
wrote:

> I remember some fine folks from Paypal talking about something like this
> at IUC a few years ago. Does anyone remember who spoke and perhaps how to
> get in touch with them?
>
> -Cameron
>
> On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 4:34 PM, Edwin Hoogerbeets <ehoogerbeets at gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>> Chris, you can see the data at:
>>
>> https://sourceforge.net/p/i18nlib/code/HEAD/tree/trunk/js/data/locale/
>>
>> Under there is
>> https://sourceforge.net/p/i18nlib/code/HEAD/tree/trunk/js/data/locale/und/<countrycode>
>> directories which contain the phone files for 22 countries. The phone files
>> are phonefmt.json for the progressive formats designed to be used for
>> format partial and full numbers while dialing digits in a phone UI,
>> numplan.json for the basic numbering plan information, states.json which is
>> a generated trie used for parsing area codes, and area.json which maps area
>> codes to geolocations. A special case is the North American Number Plan
>> (NANP) countries (Canada, US, Bermuda, and many Caribbean nations) which
>> are all configured together in the
>> https://sourceforge.net/p/i18nlib/code/HEAD/tree/trunk/js/data/locale/und/US
>> directory for convenience.
>>
>> Mike M, I can imagine that the area codes and geolocations change very
>> regularly, but the formats do not. "(XXX) XXX-XXXX" has been the de facto
>> standard American format for many, many years for example. Ilib contains
>> multiple styles of format as well, since the format is often a matter of
>> user preference instead of government mandate. See
>> https://sourceforge.net/p/i18nlib/code/HEAD/tree/trunk/js/data/locale/und/DE/phonefmt.json
>> for a country with 5 different possible styles.
>>
>> Also under
>> https://sourceforge.net/p/i18nlib/code/HEAD/tree/trunk/js/data/locale/und/<countrycode>
>> are the address.json files. These are meta-information plus a list of
>> regular expressions and hard-coded lists used to parse the addresses. It
>> doesn't get it right all the time (the US one has problems with two word
>> localities like "San Francisco" for example), but it gets it reasonably
>> close, and pretty much every country in the world is covered.
>>
>> Under 55 of the locale dirs are the name.json files which configure the
>> name formats and settings for those languages. The top level contains a
>> western-centric fall-back file used when the language doesn't have its own
>> parser:
>> https://sourceforge.net/p/i18nlib/code/HEAD/tree/trunk/js/data/locale/name.json.
>> An example of Asian formats:
>> https://sourceforge.net/p/i18nlib/code/HEAD/tree/trunk/js/data/locale/ja/name.json
>>
>> Almost all of the phone data was gleaned either from the documents on the
>> International Telecommunications Union site which has the officially
>> published numbering plan documents for many countries, as well as wikipedia
>> which has information about the formats. The address and name information
>> is gleaned almost exclusively from wikipedia.
>>
>> Edwin
>>
>>
>>
>> On 04/20/2016 11:27 PM, Chris Leonard wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 1:34 AM, Edwin Hoogerbeets
>>> <ehoogerbeets at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I heard talk 2 or 3 years ago about a proposal to add name, address, and
>>>> phone number formats to CLDR. What ever happened to those efforts? I
>>>> don't
>>>> really see data in CLDR 29 about those.
>>>>
>>>> In my i18n library for JS called "ilib", I have data about the address
>>>> formats for practically every country in the world, as well as the phone
>>>> formats and name formats for many countries. I would love to contribute
>>>> this
>>>> data to CLDR and then later leverage other people's local knowledge to
>>>> fill
>>>> in the gaps where my data is lacking...
>>>>
>>>> Can someone direct me to the folks who are working on these? Thanks,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Dear Edwin.
>>>
>>>
>>> I'd be interested in comparing your data to that in the glibc locales.
>>>
>>> Is there a link to your repo you can provide?
>>>
>>> cjl
>>>
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