names, addresses, phone numbers

[Alolita Sharma]

The i18n team at PayPal has been doing a lot of work in names, address and
postal formats over the past couple of years. Mike McKenna would be the
best person to reach out to. He must be subscribed to this list :-) It
would be great to collaborate and get this info into CLDR.

Best,
Alolita



On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 5:02 PM, Cameron Dutro <cameron at lumoslabs.com>
wrote:

> I remember some fine folks from Paypal talking about something like this
> at IUC a few years ago. Does anyone remember who spoke and perhaps how to
> get in touch with them?
>
> -Cameron
>
> On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 4:34 PM, Edwin Hoogerbeets <ehoogerbeets at gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>> Chris, you can see the data at:
>>
>> https://sourceforge.net/p/i18nlib/code/HEAD/tree/trunk/js/data/locale/
>>
>> Under there is
>> https://sourceforge.net/p/i18nlib/code/HEAD/tree/trunk/js/data/locale/und/<countrycode>
>> directories which contain the phone files for 22 countries. The phone files
>> are phonefmt.json for the progressive formats designed to be used for
>> format partial and full numbers while dialing digits in a phone UI,
>> numplan.json for the basic numbering plan information, states.json which is
>> a generated trie used for parsing area codes, and area.json which maps area
>> codes to geolocations. A special case is the North American Number Plan
>> (NANP) countries (Canada, US, Bermuda, and many Caribbean nations) which
>> are all configured together in the
>> https://sourceforge.net/p/i18nlib/code/HEAD/tree/trunk/js/data/locale/und/US
>> directory for convenience.
>>
>> Mike M, I can imagine that the area codes and geolocations change very
>> regularly, but the formats do not. "(XXX) XXX-XXXX" has been the de facto
>> standard American format for many, many years for example. Ilib contains
>> multiple styles of format as well, since the format is often a matter of
>> user preference instead of government mandate. See
>> https://sourceforge.net/p/i18nlib/code/HEAD/tree/trunk/js/data/locale/und/DE/phonefmt.json
>> for a country with 5 different possible styles.
>>
>> Also under
>> https://sourceforge.net/p/i18nlib/code/HEAD/tree/trunk/js/data/locale/und/<countrycode>
>> are the address.json files. These are meta-information plus a list of
>> regular expressions and hard-coded lists used to parse the addresses. It
>> doesn't get it right all the time (the US one has problems with two word
>> localities like "San Francisco" for example), but it gets it reasonably
>> close, and pretty much every country in the world is covered.
>>
>> Under 55 of the locale dirs are the name.json files which configure the
>> name formats and settings for those languages. The top level contains a
>> western-centric fall-back file used when the language doesn't have its own
>> parser:
>> https://sourceforge.net/p/i18nlib/code/HEAD/tree/trunk/js/data/locale/name.json.
>> An example of Asian formats:
>> https://sourceforge.net/p/i18nlib/code/HEAD/tree/trunk/js/data/locale/ja/name.json
>>
>> Almost all of the phone data was gleaned either from the documents on the
>> International Telecommunications Union site which has the officially
>> published numbering plan documents for many countries, as well as wikipedia
>> which has information about the formats. The address and name information
>> is gleaned almost exclusively from wikipedia.
>>
>> Edwin
>>
>>
>>
>> On 04/20/2016 11:27 PM, Chris Leonard wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 1:34 AM, Edwin Hoogerbeets
>>> <ehoogerbeets at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I heard talk 2 or 3 years ago about a proposal to add name, address, and
>>>> phone number formats to CLDR. What ever happened to those efforts? I
>>>> don't
>>>> really see data in CLDR 29 about those.
>>>>
>>>> In my i18n library for JS called "ilib", I have data about the address
>>>> formats for practically every country in the world, as well as the phone
>>>> formats and name formats for many countries. I would love to contribute
>>>> this
>>>> data to CLDR and then later leverage other people's local knowledge to
>>>> fill
>>>> in the gaps where my data is lacking...
>>>>
>>>> Can someone direct me to the folks who are working on these? Thanks,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Dear Edwin.
>>>
>>>
>>> I'd be interested in comparing your data to that in the glibc locales.
>>>
>>> Is there a link to your repo you can provide?
>>>
>>> cjl
>>>
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