4 Votes

Sat May 16 13:34:56 CDT 2015

I filed a ticket to clarify 
http://unicode.org/cldr/trac/ticket/8525

But what I'm not clear on, is what's actually blocking you. Is there a problem with the specific status?

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> El may 16, 2015, a las 11:28 AM, Mjbmr <mjbmri at gmail.com> escribió:
> 
> I only try to help these people and these languages, that's all. I'll give up if there is something blocking me.
> 
>> On 5/16/2015 10:28 PM, Shervin Afshar wrote:
>>> Actually I wasn't talking about any specific language.
>> 
>> It's true about any language and guest voters voting on them.
>>  
>>> So if that's true, why didn't you tell me at the first time so I wouldn't waster my time on contacting people?
>> 
>> Sorry to hear that you wasted your time mobilizing people to vote. I pointed you to the CLDR process document in the beginning of this thread. All the procedures and regulations regarding voting and contribution is documented there. I invite you to study that document carefully if you decide to keep contributing to the CLDR (which I hope you do).
>>  
>>> I'm sure we don't have high value vote people in Unicode organizations from all languages. Better be another choice, like a wiki would be better.
>> 
>> Unicode and CLDR are not working with wiki model, but since           you're involved with Wikimedia Foundation projects as well, you can bring their attention to the issue of your interest in these languages. On occasions, WMF has organizational votes on some locales:
>> 
>> https://translatewiki.net/wiki/CLDR
>>  
>> 
>> ↪ Shervin
>> 
>> On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Mjbmr <mjbmri at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Actually I wasn't talking about any specific language.
>>> 
>>> So if that's true, why didn't you tell me at the first time so I wouldn't waster my time on contacting people?
>>> 
>>> I'm sure we don't have high value vote people in Unicode organizations from all languages. Better be another choice, like a wiki would be better.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 5/16/2015 10:08 PM, Shervin Afshar wrote:
>>>> TC = Technical Committee. Unicode Consortium member organizations are listed at: http://www.unicode.org/consortium/members.html
>>>> 
>>>>> So why 4 guest vote won't get the item approved?
>>>> 
>>>> All four of Northern Luri contributors are in the same organization ("guest") and therefore:
>>>> 
>>>>> For each value, each organization gets a vote based on the maximum (not cumulative) strength of the votes of its users who voted on that item. That is, even if an organization has 10 Vetters voting for an value, if the highest level is regular vetter, then the vote count attributed to the organization as a whole is 4.
>>>> 
>>>>  http://cldr.unicode.org/index/process#TOC-Voting-Process
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ↪ Shervin
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 10:29 AM, Mjbmr <mjbmri at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> So why 4 guest vote won't get the item approved?
>>>>> 
>>>>> What's the "TC"?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Who are the members of unicode organization?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 5/12/2015 9:15 PM, John Emmons wrote:
>>>>>> Depending on the level of account you have, most things will fall into one of the following buckets: 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Guest accounts receive 1 vote.  Any data item with only 1 vote will stlil go into CLDR as draft="unconfirmed". 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regular vetter accounts from Unicode member organizations receive 4 votes.  Most locales in CLDR only require 4 votes for the item to be draft="approved" ( which is the meaning when no draft status is specifically mentioned in the data ).  The only exceptions to this are the "high visibility" locales, ( examples would include things like German, French, Arabic, or Chinese ).  For these locales, 8 votes are required in order to make a change ( 2 set of eyes from 2 different organizations ). 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> TC member accounts receive 20 votes, and are used only to resolve disputes when necessary, and also to vote on high visibility items that require a TC review.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> John C. Emmons
>>>>>> Globalization Architect & Unicode CLDR TC Chairman
>>>>>> IBM Software Group
>>>>>> Internet: emmo at us.ibm.com
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> From:        Mjbmr <mjbmri at gmail.com> 
>>>>>> To:        Shervin Afshar <shervinafshar at gmail.com> 
>>>>>> Cc:        cldr-users at unicode.org 
>>>>>> Date:        05/11/2015 12:20 PM 
>>>>>> Subject:        Re: 4 Votes 
>>>>>> Sent by:        "CLDR-Users" <cldr-users-bounces at unicode.org> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I asked "will" they be removed? and by that I mean will they get into svn repos or not?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 5/11/2015 9:43 PM, Shervin Afshar wrote: 
>>>>>> They are not removed. If I'm not mistaken in interpreting the resolution rules[1], they end up being marked as "provisional". 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> [1]: http://cldr.unicode.org/index/process#resolution_procedure 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ↪ Shervin 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 6:35 AM, Mjbmr <mjbmri at gmail.com> wrote: 
>>>>>> If we don't reach 4 votes till the end of ST close time, will they be removed?
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