4 Votes

Mjbmr mjbmri at gmail.com
Sat May 16 13:28:17 CDT 2015


I only try to help these people and these languages, that's all. I'll 
give up if there is something blocking me.

On 5/16/2015 10:28 PM, Shervin Afshar wrote:
>
>     Actually I wasn't talking about any specific language.
>
>
> It's true about any language and guest voters voting on them.
>
>     So if that's true, why didn't you tell me at the first time so I
>     wouldn't waster my time on contacting people?
>
>
> Sorry to hear that you wasted your time mobilizing people to vote. I 
> pointed you to the CLDR process document in the beginning of this 
> thread. All the procedures and regulations regarding voting and 
> contribution is documented there. I invite you to study that document 
> carefully if you decide to keep contributing to the CLDR (which I hope 
> you do).
>
>     I'm sure we don't have high value vote people in Unicode
>     organizations from all languages. Better be another choice, like a
>     wiki would be better.
>
>
> Unicode and CLDR are not working with wiki model, but since you're 
> involved with Wikimedia Foundation projects as well, you can bring 
> their attention to the issue of your interest in these languages. On 
> occasions, WMF has organizational votes on some locales:
>
> https://translatewiki.net/wiki/CLDR
>
> ↪ Shervin
>
> On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Mjbmr <mjbmri at gmail.com 
> <mailto:mjbmri at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Actually I wasn't talking about any specific language.
>
>     So if that's true, why didn't you tell me at the first time so I
>     wouldn't waster my time on contacting people?
>
>     I'm sure we don't have high value vote people in Unicode
>     organizations from all languages. Better be another choice, like a
>     wiki would be better.
>
>
>     On 5/16/2015 10:08 PM, Shervin Afshar wrote:
>>     TC = Technical Committee. Unicode Consortium member organizations
>>     are listed at: http://www.unicode.org/consortium/members.html
>>
>>         So why 4 guest vote won't get the item approved?
>>
>>
>>     All four of Northern Luri contributors are in the same
>>     organization ("guest") and therefore:
>>
>>         For each value, each organization gets a vote based on the
>>         maximum (not cumulative) strength of the votes of its users
>>         who voted on that item. That is, even if an organization has
>>         10 Vetters voting for an value, if the highest level is
>>         regular vetter, then the vote count attributed to the
>>         organization as a whole is 4.
>>
>>
>>     http://cldr.unicode.org/index/process#TOC-Voting-Process
>>
>>
>>     ↪ Shervin
>>
>>     On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 10:29 AM, Mjbmr <mjbmri at gmail.com
>>     <mailto:mjbmri at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>         So why 4 guest vote won't get the item approved?
>>
>>         What's the "TC"?
>>
>>         Who are the members of unicode organization?
>>
>>
>>         On 5/12/2015 9:15 PM, John Emmons wrote:
>>>         Depending on the level of account you have, most things will
>>>         fall into one of the following buckets:
>>>
>>>         Guest accounts receive 1 vote.  Any data item with only 1
>>>         vote will stlil go into CLDR as draft="unconfirmed".
>>>
>>>         Regular vetter accounts from Unicode member organizations
>>>         receive 4 votes.  Most locales in CLDR only require 4 votes
>>>         for the item to be draft="approved" ( which is the meaning
>>>         when no draft status is specifically mentioned in the data
>>>         ).  The only exceptions to this are the "high visibility"
>>>         locales, ( examples would include things like German,
>>>         French, Arabic, or Chinese ).  For these locales, 8 votes
>>>         are required in order to make a change ( 2 set of eyes from
>>>         2 different organizations ).
>>>
>>>         TC member accounts receive 20 votes, and are used only to
>>>         resolve disputes when necessary, and also to vote on high
>>>         visibility items that require a TC review.
>>>
>>>         Regards,
>>>
>>>         John C. Emmons
>>>         Globalization Architect & Unicode CLDR TC Chairman
>>>         IBM Software Group
>>>         Internet: emmo at us.ibm.com <mailto:emmo at us.ibm.com>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         From: Mjbmr <mjbmri at gmail.com> <mailto:mjbmri at gmail.com>
>>>         To: Shervin Afshar <shervinafshar at gmail.com>
>>>         <mailto:shervinafshar at gmail.com>
>>>         Cc: cldr-users at unicode.org <mailto:cldr-users at unicode.org>
>>>         Date: 05/11/2015 12:20 PM
>>>         Subject: Re: 4 Votes
>>>         Sent by: "CLDR-Users" <cldr-users-bounces at unicode.org>
>>>         <mailto:cldr-users-bounces at unicode.org>
>>>         ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         I asked "will" they be removed? and by that I mean will they
>>>         get into svn repos or not?
>>>
>>>         On 5/11/2015 9:43 PM, Shervin Afshar wrote:
>>>         They are not removed. If I'm not mistaken in interpreting
>>>         the resolution rules[1], they end up being marked as
>>>         "provisional".
>>>
>>>         [1]:
>>>         _http://cldr.unicode.org/index/process#resolution_procedure_
>>>
>>>         ↪ Shervin
>>>
>>>         On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 6:35 AM, Mjbmr <_mjbmri at gmail.com_
>>>         <mailto:mjbmri at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>         If we don't reach 4 votes till the end of ST close time,
>>>         will they be removed?
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