Getting entries approved for minority languages

[Steven R. Loomis]

On 05/15/2014 08:19 PM, Philippe Verdy wrote:
> May be it's possible to
> - adjust the voting threshold according to the number of participants
I think that's basically what's done on a manual basis such as in the
case of Scottish Gaelic. I don't think it would be done on an automated
basis.
> - reduce the vetting score for major companies (like Google, IBM,
> Apple, Oracle, SAP, Microsoft/Nokia, Facebook, Twitter, Mozilla
> Foundation, Launchpad, Wikimedia Translate.net, the FSF translators
> list, Samsung, HTC..., or even national linguistic institutes and
> libraries and national standard bodies, or gaming developement
> companies, or manufacturers of various automated domestic appliances),
> that still have not enough time to inverst in those minority languages
> with a confirmed interest and activity to these languages, even if
> they are full CLDR TC members. Note also that their interest may not
> be on the whole comprehensive dataset, but only on some core data (or
> just the "basic" or "modern" coverages; for example they will not need
> to include all possible calendars and onlya subset of date and number
> formats).
>
> This way those languages can have a possible start even with small
> participation (this won't hurt the business of CLDR TC members that
> have still no specific interest in those languages, they are not
> required to provide these CLDR data wit htheir products, or can
> provide them provisionally by a specific installation option).
>
> If there are errors that need correction, more people will join the
> program to paraticipate in the next release. This will help bootstart
> these languages, increase the number of users of the published data,
> and finally will increase the level of particpation of "major players"
> that will add some more of them in their monitored data, and when this
> will occur, the betting thresholds will be raised a bit.

I don't see why any such changes need to be done preemptively, though. 
As long as it is understood that votes don't go to waste, just log in
and vote as much as you can.  Saying, "See, I've contributed this data
and I need X" makes more sense than changing the rules ahead of time,
without knowing what the participation actually will be.

Perhaps something such as, the first time you cast a vote that doesn't
win or the first time you encounter ("Changes to this item require 4
votes." ) a message comes up that explains the process, explains why
signing up more people doesn't help, and basically says, send us a
mail/file a bug if you are stuck (just as Fòram did.)

And Fòram, by the way, "needs 4 votes" doesn't mean it needs four other
people, it's a vote weighting.

Steven
>
> 2014-05-15 19:32 GMT+02:00 <dzo at bisharat.net <mailto:dzo at bisharat.net>>:
>
>     I haven't been watching locale issues closely for a while, but
>     this sort of situation seems very relevant to a lot of languages
>     in Africa, and more broadly, a lot of "less-resourced" and less
>     widely spoken languages worldwide.
>
>     BTW, we lack a good term for these languages, but "long tail"
>     languages seems useful.
>
>     Don Osborn
>
>
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