<div dir="ltr"><div>Hi,</div><div><br></div><div>Number 6 was proposed
in <a href="https://www.unicode.org/L2/L2024/24232-compound-tone-diacritics.pdf" target="_blank">https://www.unicode.org/L2/L2024/24232-compound-tone-diacritics.pdf</a>
as U+1AEC COMBINING CARON ACUTE and has been provisionally assigned (<a href="https://www.unicode.org/L2/L2024/24221.htm#181-C34" target="_blank">https://www.unicode.org/L2/L2024/24221.htm#181-C34</a>).</div><div>The other numbers 7, 8, 9 seem like candidates for a proposal.</div><div><br></div><div>While the sequences of already encoded combining marks can look identical, they do not always do so and may in fact be in a confusing order, semantically they are different as well.</div><div><br></div><div>Kind regards</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, 7 Jun 2025 at 17:55, Julian Bradfield via Unicode <<a href="mailto:unicode@corp.unicode.org" target="_blank">unicode@corp.unicode.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On 2025-06-07, Richard Wordingham via Unicode <<a href="mailto:unicode@corp.unicode.org" target="_blank">unicode@corp.unicode.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> I've been trying to decipher the tone diacritics used in from jounralk<br>
> page 157 onwards (page 10 onwards of<br>
> <a href="https://kyoto-seas.org/pdf/7/2/070201.pdf" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://kyoto-seas.org/pdf/7/2/070201.pdf</a>). After massively increasing<br>
> the magnification of the PDF, I see that three of them (numbers 6<br>
> 'high-rise', 7 'low-rise' and 8 'high fall') are simply side-by-side<br>
> combinations of U+0300 COMBINING GRAVE ACCENT 'low', U+0301 COMBINING<br>
> ACUTE ACCENT, U+0302 COMBINING CIRCUMFLEX ACCENT 'fall' and U+030C<br>
> COMBINING CARON 'rise'. Does this mean that they *are* encoded, but<br>
> one 'simply' has to induce the renderer to choose to render them<br>
> side-by-side rather than stacking them vertically?<br>
<br>
TUS says (§3.6) says that by default combining marks above the base<br>
stack vertically, but they may be side-by-side for a number of<br>
reasons. So I guess "yes".<br>
<br>
> I'm struggling with number 9 'low-fall', which sometimes resembles<br>
> U+1AB0 COMBINING DOUBLED CIRCUMFLEX ACCENT, but may just be a<br>
> pixellation effect for for side-by-side <U+0302, U+0300>.<br>
<br>
I think it's obvious that it's circumflex and grave - in 6-9 the<br>
notation is prefixing an acute to indicate a high register, and<br>
suffixing a grave to indicate low, apart from:<br>
<br>
> Number 4 'high-dip' could be U+0303 COMBINING TILDE.<br>
<br>
Typographically, it clearly is a tilde. Probably on the grounds that<br>
acute acute-hacek is too fiddly to typeset<br>
<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div><div><br clear="all"></div><br><span class="gmail_signature_prefix">-- </span><br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div>Denis Moyogo Jacquerye</div></div></div>