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--></style></head><body lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Asmus Freytag wrote:</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Unicode [mailto:<a href="mailto:unicode-bounces@corp.unicode.org">unicode-bounces@corp.unicode.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Asmus Freytag via Unicode<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, 20 April 2025 20:25<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:unicode@corp.unicode.org">unicode@corp.unicode.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: Recycling symbols</span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div><p class="MsoNormal">On 4/20/2025 12:43 AM, Piotr Karocki via Unicode wrote:</p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><pre>Seems like writing proposal is harder than I thought :)</pre></blockquote><p class="MsoNormal">Yes. it's a bit of work, but remember, once a character is encoded, it is forever. That means that it is worthwhile to spend a bit of time at the start to get it right. Even if that can be a bit frustrating.<br><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Console";color:#0070c0">It is not only frustrating - I cannot create glyphs. I can only create (maybe sufficient) justification for adding such symbols :)</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p>In some cases, the version you cite is the original edition from 1994. However, the notes indicate that some revisions took place in 2018. </p><p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Console";color:#0070c0">Changing from original version to version with all revisions incorporated is only one click away :) </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Console";color:#1f497d"></span></p><p><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p>Your task goes beyond collecting a bibliography like this. You need to cite individual passages, with images as appropriate. If you can, it would be appropriate to show some examples where these appear in print, not just embossed in the container. This serves two purposes: to document that these can be considered "text" and that there is evidence that the regulation is effective.</p><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Console";color:#0070c0">This symbols appears on most labels in EU. It should appear on all labels, though, as it is required by law.</span></p><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Console";color:#0070c0">Maybe, if using such symbols be less cumbersome (without requirement of mixing graphic with text), such symbols would be used more frequently?</span></p><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Console";color:#0070c0">Most frequently, labels contains two symbols: one for foil (or similar package, so plastic - from Unicode), and second is for label (mainly paper - outside Unicode).</span></p><p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Console";color:#0070c0">Next week I can collect some product packages/labels photos. But still, I would not create glyphs…</span></p><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><pre><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span></pre><pre><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></pre><pre>I thing best solution would be only "triangle" with digits, no abbreviation</pre><pre>(it can be added using normal letters). And best of best, as "combining</pre><pre>recycling triangle", if such combining is possible (probably it is not</pre><pre>possible).</pre></blockquote><p>Finally, you need to address the issue of what should be encoded in plain text.</p><p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Console";color:#0070c0">Two digits number inside recycling triangle. Not 'description' - although description (e.g. ALU) is also standarized by law, and is same for all EU countries (language independent), it can be easily added below triangle (as text in line below triangle). </span></p><p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Console";color:#0070c0">Currently, Unicode contains only recycling plastics; so it seems like half-way. If none symbols would exists in Unicode, it would be OK. But if some already exists, why not all recycling symbols defined by law, and only plastic?</span></p><p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Console";color:#0070c0"> </span></p><p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Console";color:#0070c0"> </span></p><p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Console";color:#0070c0">I would also like to add all symbols from ISO 7000 (IEC 60417), <a href="https://www.iso.org/obp/ui#iso:pub:PUB400008:en">https://www.iso.org/obp/ui#iso:pub:PUB400008:en</a> , as they are created for use in user manuals, and all user interface (physical as e.g. buttons, controls, or display), etc.. If you check your's car manual, you will find many symbols from this standard in it :) But this is another story.</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"></span></p></div></body></html>