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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">If you want to propose symbols, you
need to do the legwork and locate documents or books that they
were used in. And if that positive evidence exists, the actual
encoding decision would be based on the type of usage and the
potential for these documents to be digitized for archival and
other purposes.</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">There are several places on the Unicode
website where you can find instructions for submitting an encoding
request and information and explanation for the types of
documentation required -- by you, as the submitter.</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">A./<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/22/2024 11:06 AM, William_J_G
Overington via Unicode wrote:<br>
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<p><span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:18px;">I had in mind
asking about something in this mailing list that might of
itself be off-topic yet which may be of interest to some of
the readers of this mailing list. Yet when working out what to
write I found myself considering something which may well be
possibly directly on topic, but I am not sure whether it is or
not.</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:18px;">The original
topic is that I remember that in the mid 1960s I was given a
few copies of then recent issues of the Monotype Newsletter
when visiting the office of the Monotype Corporation at 43
Fetter Lane, London. In one of these, or maybe in a later
issue that was sent to me, was an article about a collection
of then newly released single type border units, possibly at
one of 24 point, 30 point, or 36 point size.</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:18px;">These were ten
national emblem designs, five for constructing a straight
border and five for corners. They could be used individually
or mixed as desired. There was a rose, a thistle, a leek, a
daffodil, a shamrock. Two of each, for a straight line and a
corner.</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:18px;">At that time
the Monotype Corporation sold matrices for use in casting
metal type. These matrices could be bought by businesses that
used Monotype type casting machines. Some businesses cast type
for one-off use in-house for printing, some businesses cast in
a harder alloy and sold the type thus cast for repeated use in
handset printing to people who used printing machines, whether
by way of trade, or as hobbyist Private Press printers. My
interest was in hobbyist Private Press.</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:18px;">So whereas the
Monotype Corporation offered for purchase a vast number of
matrices, each business that bought them only bought a
selection of them to suit their needs. So such things as this
national emblems set need not necessarily become available to
Private Presses that bought type from a typefounder. As far as
I am aware, it was not.</span></p>
<p> </p>
<p><span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:18px;">So I thought
that I would ask in this mailing list as to whether those
designs have been, or could be please, released in a digital
form. Maybe these days in colour versions too.</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:18px;">And then I
thought, could they be encoded in regular Unicode?</span></p>
<p> </p>
<p><span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:18px;">And I thought,
well I cannot say that they would be used in a run of plain
text. So maybe no.</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:18px;">Yet the issue
that I then wondered about is that files that are not plain
text yet which contain Unicode characters are interchanged.</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:18px;">So where does
that fit in?</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:18px;">Should Unicode
encode characters that are single type borders that might well
be used in a rich text document such as a poem surrounded by a
border that is sent from one person to another? Or not.</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:18px;">William
Overington</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:18px;">Monday 22 April
2024</span></p>
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