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<div><b>Gesendet:</b> Mittwoch, 18. Dezember 2019 um 14:43 Uhr<br/>
<b>Von:</b> "Joao S. O. Bueno" <gwidion@gmail.com><br/>
<b>An:</b> "Marius Spix" <marius.spix@web.de><br/>
<b>Cc:</b> unicode@unicode.org<br/>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: HEAVY EQUALS SIGN</div>
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<div>I think that as your object is emoji drawing, not mathematics, this request can't
<div>be justified that way.<br/>
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Maybe it would make more sense to try and check whether modification combining</div>
<div>characters to shift the change the combined character into other weight/decoration/color and/or other</div>
<div>character effects could be built, that could be used not only along emoji, but with all other characters.<br/>
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Currently those transforms require the use of another text protocol, like HTML, or ANSI sequences</div>
<div>for terminal, or even proprietary and add-hoc text file structures like Microsoft's .doc and .rtf (and other</div>
<div>not that proprietary, but equally dependant on specific software to be proper rendered, like .ooxml and .odf).</div>
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<div>Since modificator characters for color and others have been tried and tested in Unicode land for</div>
<div>some emojis, the ball to have in-unicode proper character transforms could start to roll -<br/>
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Does anyone know if there is already an initiative like that? I'd like to know more about it.<br/>
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(as for the O.P.: I think the way out for you now is to use an out-of-unicode markup</div>
<div>to select a heavier-looking font for the `+` and `=` characters)<br/>
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<div>On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 at 09:42, Marius Spix via Unicode <<a href="mailto:unicode@unicode.org" onclick="parent.window.location.href='mailto:unicode@unicode.org'; return false;" target="_blank">unicode@unicode.org</a>> wrote:</div>
<blockquote>Unicode has a HEAVY PLUS SIGN (U+2795) and a HEAVY MINUS SIGN (U+2796).<br/>
I wonder, if a HEAVY EQUALS SIGN could complete that character set.<br/>
This would allow emoji phrases like 🐈 ➕👨= ❤️. (man plus cat equals<br/>
love) looking typographically better, when you replace the equals sign<br/>
with a new HEAVY EQUALS SIGN character. Thoughts?<br/>
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<div style="margin:0 0 10px 0;"><b>Gesendet:</b> Montag, 20. März 2023 um 05:59 Uhr<br/>
<b>Von:</b> "Asmus Freytag via Unicode" <unicode@corp.unicode.org><br/>
<b>An:</b> unicode@corp.unicode.org<br/>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: Missing "(Heavy)EQUAL SIGN-Emoji"</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/19/2023 4:01 PM, Sławomir Osipiuk via Unicode wrote:</div>
<blockquote>Quite a lot, actually, but at its heart it's still a computer and hence more likely to do what you tell it than what you want.
<div>I assume "LX" told ChatGPT to "write a proposal for a Heavy Equals Sign Emoji" rather than asking "Is there a Heavy Equals Sign Emoji defined in Unicode?"</div>
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<p>Right, and I had asked you do to it, you would have noticed it's there already and asked me why I was so daft to propose something as missing that is already present. Also, if you had concluded that a new character would be required, you would have argued why the seemingly existing one was not in fact the one that you thought is needed. That being a a requirement of a good proposal (explaining why seeming alternatives are not valid).</p>
<p>So, if the role of the chatbot just consists of creating plausible sounding language, we should ban their use in submissions and communications with the Consortium. Because they may make it sound like a proposal or suggestion is well researched or thought out, when if fact it isn't, wasting everybody's time.</p>
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On Sunday, 19 March 2023, 17:58:04 (-04:00), Asmus Freytag via Unicode wrote:<br/>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Well, what can you expect from a message written by a chatbot?</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">A./</div>
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