<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd"> <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"> <head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" /> </head> <body><div class="auto-created-dir-div" dir="auto" style="unicode-bidi: embed;"><style>p{margin:0}</style>James Kass wrote:<div><p><br></p><p>> <span style="white-space: pre-wrap; display: inline !important;">1) I am an inventor and I have designed a brand new writing system for my people. I would like for it to be in Unicode so that it will be standard. Once it is in the Standard I will have something to point to, which might help me persuade my people to use it.</span></p><p><br></p><p>...</p><div><p><br></p><p>> <span style="white-space: pre-wrap; display: inline !important;">Most everyone here will agree that proposal 1 is a complete non-starter ...</span></p><p><span style="white-space: pre-wrap; display: inline !important;"><br></span></p><p><span style="white-space: pre-wrap;">The inclusion of the word "Most" is good.</span></p><p><span style="white-space: pre-wrap; display: inline !important;"><br></span></p><p><span style="white-space: pre-wrap; display: inline !important;">Please note in particular the inclusion of "for my people". So we are not talking here of someone putting together what might be called a work of art, just as some people write novels, some paint pictures, some make clay pottery.</span></p><p><span style="white-space: pre-wrap; display: inline !important;"><br></span></p><p><span style="white-space: pre-wrap; display: inline !important;">So if someone proposed a well-designed script based on well-researched potential use in a culture, set forth in a substantial thesis at a level of around that of a thesis for a Master degree, I opine that it would be good to seriously study that thesis, conduct the equivalent of a viva voce examination, with the clear possibility of encoding that proposed script, notwithstanding there being no evidence of existing substantial use. I opine that if someone has put in that amount of effort and enthusiasm for his or her dream, he or she should be applauded and assisted to fulfil his or her dream.</span></p><p><span style="white-space: pre-wrap; display: inline !important;"><br></span></p><p><span style="white-space: pre-wrap; display: inline !important;">William Overington</span></p><p><span style="white-space: pre-wrap; display: inline !important;"><br></span></p><p><span style="white-space: pre-wrap; display: inline !important;">Monday 11 October 2021</span></p><p><span style="white-space: pre-wrap; display: inline !important;"><br></span></p><p><br></p><blockquote style="margin: 0 auto; padding: 0 2em; border-left:2px solid #00ADE5; white-space: pre-wrap "><br><br>------ Original Message ------<br>From: "James Kass via Unicode" <unicode@corp.unicode.org><br>To: unicode@corp.unicode.org<br>Sent: Saturday, 2021 Oct 9 At 18:36<br>Subject: Re: Encoding ConScripts<br><br><br>
On 2021-10-09 5:03 AM, Anshuman Pandey via Unicode wrote:<br>
<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tbody><tr><td width="3" bgcolor="#888888"></td><td width="3"></td><td width="3"></td><td>At IUC 45 next Thursday, Deborah Anderson and I will be presenting on “Negotiating Neographies: Approaches for Encoding Newly-Invented Scripts”.<br>
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I’ll be discussing some metrics that may be used for evaluating neographies (nod to Ken W for that term), conscripts, or whatever you’d like to call them.<br>
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Such metrics, as James pointed out, are necessary, especially considering the influx of proposals to encode newly-invented scripts, particularly those of Africa and South Asia.<br>
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Neography is a splendid coinage.<br>
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This is a fascinating topic and I hope that there will be a video of the presentation.<br>
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Consider the following two imaginary proposals:<br>
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1) I am an inventor and I have designed a brand new writing system for my people. I would like for it to be in Unicode so that it will be standard. Once it is in the Standard I will have something to point to, which might help me persuade my people to use it.<br>
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2) We have developed a new writing system for our people. We are using this new writing system to publish books and periodicals. Our new writing system is being taught in our schools and our people have embraced the writing system wholeheartedly.<br>
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Most everyone here will agree that proposal 1 is a complete non-starter and that proposal 2 would be given due consideration with a high probability of eventual acceptance.<br>
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But many proposals will probably be somewhere in between those two scenarios. Where does one draw the line? I expect that the upcoming presentation will thoughtfully address this matter.<br>
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