<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><br><div dir="ltr"><blockquote type="cite">On Oct 5, 2021, at 6:28 PM, Mark E. Shoulson via Unicode <unicode@corp.unicode.org> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><span>On 10/5/21 4:58 PM, Asmus Freytag via Unicode wrote:</span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span>There's a HUUUGE distinction between</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>(1) I wonder whether there's an emoji that's commonly used to express "Thank You!" (and if so, what does it look like?).</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>(2) We should have / add an emoji for "Thank You!" but I have no idea what it would look like.</span><br></blockquote><span></span><br><span>Good distinction/explanation, thank you.</span><br><span></span><br><span>"Thank You" is a "reaction" icon often wished-for in Slack conversations, at least where I work. Slack lets you upload your own "emoji" (even animated ones) so people have supplied their own, but they're generally text-based, like a teeny-tiny post-it note that says "Thank you!" on it, or some animated colorful text like "thx!" or whatever. But those are just pretty ways of using ordinary words and letters.</span><br></div></blockquote><div><br></div>At my work place, we use an image of Tom Hanks for this. Plenty of inspiration to found at <a href="https://www.etsy.com/market/tom_hanks_thanks">https://www.etsy.com/market/tom_hanks_thanks</a>!<div><br></div><div>Tom. </div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><span></span><br><span>~mark</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>The first goes into the direction that Tex perhaps was aiming at: there are images that express ideas; some evoke these ideas spontaneously, others may be associated with an idea by convention. Existing emoji span both dimensions. Asking about how existing emoji are used should always be fair game. And should definitely be something that gets a decent answer on this list.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>The second is a no-go. Only if you are aware of a convention shared by others that associates an image or icon with a concept should you propose to reify that by adding the image to the emoji set. (You may even choose to not propose it, regardless). However, if there's no existing convention, and you are not aware of one, you should definitely not raise a proposal.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>In other words, just because you think something ought to be expressable --- unless you have a concrete expression for it, it can't even be evaluated or considered, and unless you have an idea that (many) others agree both on the need to express something and on the proposed expression there's little chance that a proposal would find favor.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>A./</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>PS: now (3) "Is there anyone else here who thinks there ought to be a visual shorthand for "Thank You!" and if so, what would it look like?" would be a fair question. This list may not be the best one to ask it.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>On 10/5/2021 1:28 PM, Tex via Unicode wrote:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>That's a bit unfair Mark. Someone can want to represent an idea (be it an object, emotion, action, or other concept) and not have the visual or artistic skills to know how to depict it, or simply not know the best way to do so, given many options being considered. People should be able to ask a question without there being an implication if you have to ask there is no answer.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>And pictures often represent more than a static view of an object. The choice of the view and the context in the image can indicate action or other states.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>There are many photographic images that communicate sadness, loneliness or a host of other emotions without showing facial expressions at all.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>tex</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>-----Original Message-----</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>From: Unicode [mailto:unicode-bounces@corp.unicode.org] On Behalf Of Mark E. Shoulson via Unicode</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Sent: Tuesday, October 5, 2021 12:25 PM</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>To:unicode@corp.unicode.org</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Subject: Re: Is there an emoji for Thank you</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Emoji are pictures of things. To the extent they convey emotions, it's</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>because they're pictures of things (facial expressions) which we</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>associate with emotions.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>If you can't say what it would look like, that almost definitionally</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>excludes it from being a emoji, a picture of a thing, doesn't it?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>~mark</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>On 10/5/21 2:51 PM, William_J_G Overington via Unicode wrote:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Is there an emoji for</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Thank you</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>If not, could there be, should there be?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>What would it look like?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>William Overington</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Tuesday 5 October 2021</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></div></blockquote></div></body></html>