<div dir="auto">Essentially, for a nominally IP encumbered script, you want the party that is claiming ownership to propose that it be encoded. <div dir="auto">And while that was a bizarre idea when all this first came up a few decades ago, it's less so now. Pitching that everyone will be able to write Klingon on their phone is believable. </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Sep 18, 2021, 20:29 Peter Constable via Unicode <<a href="mailto:unicode@corp.unicode.org">unicode@corp.unicode.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal">Indeed.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Consider some professional but small type foundry. Are they going to want to create fonts and sell licenses when there’s a question as to whether Paramount might go after them?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Consider a large software / device vendor: will their legal departments sign off on supporting the script?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Peter<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Unicode <<a href="mailto:unicode-bounces@corp.unicode.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">unicode-bounces@corp.unicode.org</a>> <b>On Behalf Of
</b>Ken Whistler via Unicode<br>
<b>Sent:</b> September 17, 2021 8:24 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Mark E. Shoulson <<a href="mailto:mark@kli.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">mark@kli.org</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:unicode@corp.unicode.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">unicode@corp.unicode.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Difference between Klingon and Tengwar<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p>By _users_ here, Peter doesn't mean some random end user using their communicator (err, smart phone) to send piQaD messages at a StarTrek fan convention, but rather the implementing companies who put piQaD keyboards and fonts on those smart phones. If somebody
wakes up at Paramount and wonders, hmmm, does Apple (or Google, or Samsung, or ...) have a license from us for that Klingon stuff they just put on their phones, those are far juicier targets for an IP infringement lawsuit, *even if* the likeliest outcome would
not be a decisive win in a court case, but rather just some out of court settlement. Even an out of court settlement in some case like this would set a terrible precedent, encouraging other people claiming IP rights on some writing system being considered
for encoding in the Unicode Standard.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p>--Ken<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 9/16/2021 6:17 PM, Mark E. Shoulson via Unicode wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p>Now, Peter Constable writes:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The main concern is that _<i>users</i>_ of The Unicode Standard won’t be susceptible to IP claims against them. Since this is uncertain, the onus is on the advocates for encoding the script to resolve that.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p>which is an angle I actually had not heard before. And here I'm really puzzled. The users of the script are already using the script, whether Unicode encodes it or not. So why is Unicode suddenly concerned on their behalf? This one is really kind of
strange. Could Unicode be legally responsible for people "illegally" using the script? It's hardly in Unicode's power to stop them, as evidence by the fact that usage exists.<u></u><u></u></p>
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