<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div dir="auto" style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">29 dec. 2020 kl. 22:08 skrev Asmus Freytag via Unicode <<a href="mailto:unicode@unicode.org" class="">unicode@unicode.org</a>>:</blockquote></div></div></blockquote><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><p class="">It's also Unicode's (separate) business to provide the
information needed to parse numbers, at least for decimal
place-value systems, </p></div></div></blockquote>For digits used in decimal place-value systems where the most significant digit comes first; those have general category Nd.<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><p class="">and included in that, to collect data on
locale preference for number formatting.</p></div></div></blockquote>Well, CLDR’s business (though a Unicode consortium project); not as part of the Unicode standard.</div><div><br class=""></div><div style="orphans: 2; widows: 2;">Apart from place-value systems, CLDR also covers some other numbering systems that are still in modern use in certain contexts: <b class="">armenian-lower</b>, <b class="">armenian-upper</b>, <b class="">cyrillic-lower</b>, <b class="">ethiopic</b>, <b class="">georgian</b>, <b class="">greek-lower</b>, <b class="">greek-upper</b>, <b class="">hebrew</b>, <b class="">hebrew-item</b>, <b class="">roman-lower</b>, <b class="">roman-upper</b>, <b class="">tamil</b> (several of these have extensions for zero and negative; and some have been updated from my initial submission to CLDR). See <i class=""><a href="https://github.com/unicode-org/cldr/blob/master/common/rbnf/root.xml" class="">https://github.com/unicode-org/cldr/blob/master/common/rbnf/root.xml</a></i> or <i class=""><a href="https://github.com/unicode-cldr/cldr-rbnf/blob/master/rbnf/root.json" class="">https://github.com/unicode-cldr/cldr-rbnf/blob/master/rbnf/root.json</a></i>. Truely historical (i.e. no longer used) numbering systems are not (yet) covered. However, if you know <span style="color: rgb(23, 43, 77); orphans: 2; widows: 2; letter-spacing: -0.01em;" class="">Suzhou and counting rod numbering systems, you can help me confirm or </span><span style="color: rgb(23, 43, 77); orphans: 2; widows: 2; caret-color: rgb(23, 43, 77); letter-spacing: -0.23999999463558197px;" class="">improve</span><span style="color: rgb(23, 43, 77); orphans: 2; widows: 2; letter-spacing: -0.01em;" class=""> the rules in CLDR ticket </span><font color="#172b4d" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(23, 43, 77); letter-spacing: -0.11999999731779099px;" class=""><i class=""><a href="https://unicode-org.atlassian.net/browse/CLDR-4473" class="">https://unicode-org.atlassian.net/browse/CLDR-4473</a></i> (look towards the end of the ticket, there are several versions of the rules there).</span></font></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div>CJK numbering systems (not considering <span style="caret-color: rgb(23, 43, 77); color: rgb(23, 43, 77); letter-spacing: -0.11999999731779099px; orphans: 2; widows: 2;" class="">Suzhou and counting rod</span>) are not in CLDR's ”root” but are covered in the respective locales as spell-out rules (I found that to be a more appropriate analysis, and the CLDR committee apparently agreed, at least technically). For instance, in <i class=""><a href="https://github.com/unicode-org/cldr/blob/master/common/rbnf/zh.xml" class="">https://github.com/unicode-org/cldr/blob/master/common/rbnf/zh.xml</a></i> you find <span style="color: rgb(3, 47, 98); font-family: SFMono-Regular, Consolas, "Liberation Mono", Menlo, monospace; orphans: 2; white-space: pre; widows: 2; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><b class="">spellout-cardinal-financial</b></span>. I will not list them all here, check them out in CLDR’s source (one problem is the different formats for the rules…).</div><div><br class=""></div><div><div>You can check out the rules, and result samples, by using <i class=""><a href="https://st.unicode.org/cldr-apps/numbers.jsp" class="">https://st.unicode.org/cldr-apps/numbers.jsp</a></i>. It is <b class="">not</b> written by me, but it is a very handy tool for checking RBNF rules in CLDR as well at testing new RBNF rules (or rulesets actually). Caveat: To make new rules, or update/fix existing ones, requires some programming skills.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div><div>/Kent Karlsson</div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><p class="">And that's where the story, and this discussion, effectively
ends.</p><p class="">A./<br class="">
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