Combining characters
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Sun Dec 14 14:40:25 CST 2025
Following up on Charlotte's comment:
for Unicode 17.0, released in September 2025, see:
1. *Unicode® 17.0 Versioned Charts Index
*<https://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/Unicode-17.0/>, which lists all
4803 characters newly encoded in Unicode 17.0, including 27 in
"Combining Diacritical Marks Extended".
2. *Combining Diacritical Marks Extended*
<https://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/Unicode-17.0/U170-1AB0.pdf>
which has pictures of new combining characters U-1ACF..U-1ADD and
U-1AE0..U-1AEB.
So, there have been new combiners in the most recent version of The
Unicode Standard.
—Jim DeLaHunt
On 2025-12-14 10:28, Charlotte Eiffel Lilith Buff via Unicode wrote:
> > The fact that there haven't been any new combiners in several versions
>
> I’m actually really curious what gave you that impression. Pretty much
> every Unicode update adds tons of new combining characters (the only
> exceptions being those weird inbetween-y versions we occasionally get).
>
> Am So., 14. Dez. 2025 um 18:39 Uhr schrieb Phil Smith III via Unicode
> <unicode at corp.unicode.org>:
>
> Doug Ewell wrote:
> >Another, possibly more farsighted reason is that, if a newly needed
> >letter-with-diacritic can be represented today with an existing
> letter
> >and an existing diacritic, instead of waiting possibly years for the
> >precomposed combination to be encoded, that time saving is a big win
> >for the user community.
>
> "newly needed letter-with-diacritic" -- does that happen? Venusian
> gets added and the ONLY issue is that it needs J+Combining Grave?
> I see the point but am not sure it's realistic, and in any case
> isn't what I'm talking about: I'm asking about NEW combiners.
> Though "invalid" combinations can be an issue now, with different
> engines rendering them differently. At least if code comes across
> J+Combining Grave now, the combining-ness is known. When a
> Combining Backslash is added for Jovian, well, now that character
> is new and normalization adventures abound.
>
> >More combining characters that work essentially the same as existing
> >ones don’t really add to the pain.
>
> Actually they add a LOT of pain/complexity for certain use cases,
> because of normalization.
>
> Thanks; I don't mean to sound like "Go away", this is exactly the
> kind of discussion I was hoping for! The fact that there haven't
> been any new combiners in several versions (I think?) is what made
> me think that there might be some level of "No more, not now, not
> ever" policy.
>
>
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. --Jim DeLaHunt,jdlh at jdlh.com http://blog.jdlh.com/ (http://jdlh.com/)
multilingual websites consultant, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
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