does anybody know about these accidentals?

[Hans Åberg]

> On 26 Jul 2024, at 03:15, Jim DeLaHunt via Unicode <unicode at corp.unicode.org> wrote:
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> On 2024-07-25 06:58, Hans Åberg wrote:
>>> On 24 Jul 2024, at 22:33, Jim DeLaHunt via Unicode <unicode at corp.unicode.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> What specifically would you like to know about these accidentals?  What do you "wonder about the origin of" [these two characters]? If you would write a message with your questions, I will post that in these two foums.
>> Even though one example was given here upthread, a score where it is used, it is hard to find any other examples of it by searches. At the same time, Unicode does not have much of microtonal accidentals, so it is curious it ending up in it. So the question is what is its origin?
> 
> So it sounds like this is a "history of music notation" question, rather than a character encoding question.

Since the character is already encoded as a code point, and Unicode never removes any one already there, the character encoding question of this character is already settled.

But it has been discussed here whether to add the rest of the Smufl characters. There it was noted that there is overlap, the same glyph may have more than one encoding.

For example, the Turkish AEU accidentals are semantically different from the Western, but historically the same. For example, the AEU ♯ and 𝄪 are microtonal accidentals due to mistakes when constructing the system, but nevertheless, this is what is being used.

This issue must somehow be resolved before these characters can be added to Unicode.

My original question is a part of this larger perspective.