Aw: Re: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: External Link Symbol

[Peter Constable]

Let’s be clear: all that RFC 7992 is doing is documenting the conventions used in the non-canonical HTML versions of IETF RFCs. Unless in some other context there is a specification that normatively references RFC 7992, it has no real import beyond the HTML versions of IETF RFCs.


Peter

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Subject: Re: Aw: Re: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: External Link Symbol

On 4/15/2024 6:55 AM, Marius Spix wrote:
The pilcrow sign is offically mentioned in RFC 7992. See section 5.2. So I would consider it the conventional representation for anchor links.


I would agree that it is "a convention" for representation of anchor links. It happens to work for English, as the pilcrow sign conventionally means "paragraph" and the intent in RFC7992 is to provide links to all paragraphs.

However, the formatting of RFCs provided as HTML is a different beast from generic prescription for formatting all HTML documents. So this should not be over interpreted.

A./

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The first and last choice are arguably not the most conventional representations for these. They are, at best, fallbacks.

A./

On 4/12/2024 12:31 AM, Marius Spix via Unicode wrote:
For all these types of links existing characters can be used:

anchor links: U+00B6 ¶ PILCROW SIGN
local links: U+1F517 🔗 LINK SYMBOL
broken links (also known as red-links): U+26D3 U+200D U+1F4A5 CHAINS + ‍ZERO WIDTH JOINER + COLLISION SYMBOL
external links: U+2192 → RIGHTWARDS ARROW

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An: "Tom Moore" <tom.moore at microsoft.com><mailto:tom.moore at microsoft.com>, "Sławomir Osipiuk" <sosipiuk at gmail.com><mailto:sosipiuk at gmail.com>, "Asmus Freytag via Unicode" <unicode at corp.unicode.org><mailto:unicode at corp.unicode.org>
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On 4/11/2024 11:47 AM, Tom Moore wrote:
> Then multiply that by 2, for links that navigate current tab vs. request to open a new tab.

Is there a link to samples for all of these as used in practice, or is
this just a theoretical distinction?

A./

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> There are actually three kinds of links that are distinguishable from each
> other:
>
> - A link to a different location in the current document (anchor link/jump
> link)
> - A link to a resource on the same network/domain as the current document (local link/relative link)
> - A link to a resource on a different network (external link)
>
> All those can appear as symbols, used contrastively, within a run of text.
> I'm very surprised these haven't already been encoded and that there is any controversy. The consortium doesn't care much for precendent, but come on, we have "play"and "eject" symbols encoded!






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