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Philippe Verdy via Unicode unicode at
Sat Jun 9 11:49:16 CDT 2018

2018-06-09 17:22 GMT+02:00 Marcel Schneider via Unicode <unicode at

> On Sat, 9 Jun 2018 09:47:01 +0100, Richard Wordingham via Unicode wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, 9 Jun 2018 08:23:33 +0200 (CEST)
> > Marcel Schneider via Unicode <unicode at> wrote:
> >
> > > > Where there is opportunity for productive sync and merging with is
> > > > glibc. We have had some discussions, but more needs to be done-
> > > > especially a lot of tooling work. Currently many bug reports are
> > > > duplicated between glibc and cldr, a sort of manual
> > > > synchronization. Help wanted here.
> > >
> > > Noted. For my part, sadly for C libraries I’m unlikely to be of any
> > > help.
> >
> > I wonder how much of that comes under the sad category of "better not
> > translated". If an English speaker has to resort to search engines to
> > understand, let alone fix, a reported problem, it may be better for a
> > non-English speaker to search for the error message in English, and then
> > with luck he may find a solution he can understand.
> Then adding a "Display in English" button in the message box is best
> practice.
> Still I’ve never encountered any yet, and I guess this is because such a
> facility
> would be understood as an admission that up to now, i18n is partly a
> failure.

- Navigate any page on the web in another language than yours, with a
Google Translate plugin enabled on your browser. you'll have the choice of
seeing the automatic translation or the original.

- Many websites that have pages proposed in multiple languages offers such
buttons to select the language you want to see (and not necesarily falling
back to English, becausse the original may as well be in another language
and English is an approximate translation, notably for sites in Asia,
Africa and south America).

- Even the official websites of the European Union (or EEA) offers such
choice (but at least the available translations are correctly reviewed for
European languages; not all pages are translated in all official languages
of member countries, but this is the case for most pages intended to be
read by the general public, while pages about ongoing works, or technical
reports for specialists, or recent legal decisions may not be translated
except in a few "working languages", generally English, German, and French,
sometimes Italian, the 4 languages spoken officially in multiple countries
in the EEA including at least one in the European Union).

So it's not a "failure" but a feature to be able to select the language,
and to know when a proposed translation is fully or partly automated.
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