Aw: Re: Thoughts on working with the Emoji Subcommittee (was Re: Thoughts on Emoji Selection Process)

[Asmus Freytag (c) via Unicode]

On 8/23/2018 3:28 AM, "Jörg Knappen" wrote:
> Asmus,
> I know your style of humor, but to keep it straight:
> All known human languages, even Piraha, have pronouns for "I" and "you".

And languages like Japanese, tend to use them - mostly not.

Even if the concepts are known, and can be named, there are deep 
differences across languages concerning the need  or conventions for 
demarcating them with words in any given context.

Replacing words by symbols is not going to fix this - the only way to 
get a 'universal' system of symbolic expression is to invent a new 
language, with its own conventions for use of these symbols in any given 
context.

A./

> --Jörg Knappen
> *Gesendet:* Montag, 20. August 2018 um 16:20 Uhr
> *Von:* "Asmus Freytag via Unicode" <unicode at unicode.org>
> *An:* unicode at unicode.org
> *Betreff:* Re: Thoughts on working with the Emoji Subcommittee (was 
> Re: Thoughts on Emoji Selection Process)
>
> What about languages that don't have or don't use personal pronouns. 
> Their speakers might find their use odd or awkward.
>
> The same for many other grammatical concepts: they work reasonably 
> well if used by someone from a related language, or for linguists 
> trained in general concepts, but languages differ so much in what they 
> express explicitly that if any native speaker transcribes the features 
> that are exposed (and not implied) in their native language it may not 
> be what a reader used to a different language is expecting to see.
>
> A./
>

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