The (Klingon) Empire Strikes Back

Michael Everson everson at
Tue Nov 15 21:57:23 CST 2016

On 3 Nov 2016, at 23:43, Mark Shoulson <mark at> wrote:

> Michael Everson: I basically copied your 1997 proposal into the document, with some minor changes.  I hope you don't mind.

I do not.

> And if you don't want to be on the hook for providing the glyphs to UTC, I can do that.  I think that proposal should serve as a starting-point for discussion anyway.

I’m in. 

> 1. the "SYMBOL FOR EMPIRE" also known as the "MUMMIFICATION GLYPH".  I don't know where the second name comes from, I don't know how important it is to encode it, and I don't know how much of a trademark headache it will cause with Paramount, as it is used pretty heavily in their imagery.  Something we'll have to talk about.

I’d leave it out for now.

> 2. I put in the COMMA and FULL STOP, which were not in the original proposal but were in the ConScript registry entry.

Yes, those have been adopted since 1997. 

>  The examples I have show them clearly being used.  UTC may decide to unify them with existing triangular shapes, which may or may not be a good idea.

As they are punctuation, I think it unlikely. 

> 3. For my part, I've invented a pair of ampersands for Klingon (Klingon has two words for "and": one for joining verbs/sentences and one for joining nouns (the former goes between its "conjunctands", the latter after them)), from ligatures of the letters in question.  The pretty much have NO usage, of course (and are not in the proposal), but maybe they should be presented to the community.

That’s up to you. Adoption is a matter for the user community. 

> Let the bickering begin!

may’ malujpu'. veS maQap.

Michael Everson

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