Adding half-star to Unicode?

Philippe Verdy verdy_p at wanadoo.fr
Fri Jun 24 12:23:19 CDT 2016


Or just reuse the code already assigned to the circled A (the most common
basic symbol), ignoring the many variants of shapes and colors.

2016-06-24 19:20 GMT+02:00 Leonardo Boiko <leoboiko at namakajiri.net>:

> > My bet is that they'll prefer using whatever code they want, hacking
> fonts as necessary to overtake another political symbol when they'll want.
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> They could liberate a code point from the private use area.
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> 2016-06-24 14:10 GMT-03:00 Philippe Verdy <verdy_p at wanadoo.fr>:
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>> My bet is that they'll prefer using whatever code they want, hacking
>> fonts as necessary to overtake another political symbol when they'll want.
>> They could do that easily with Webfonts today (by designing a tiny webfont
>> with just one glyph mapped to any code point, including some ASCII symbol
>> such as the DOLLAR sign). They would even refuse any normalization and
>> would not even use the codepoint proposed for them, or by remapping some
>> ASCII-art string (the classic emoticons of Usenet; if we even attempt to
>> define standard colors, or glyph design, they'll invent another
>> incompatible design, will change colors, will rotate it, will change it
>> into an exploding star...). However the historic anarchists symbol that was
>> seen on walls and painted banners in Europe in the 19th and early 20th
>> century was only black.
>>
>> And it was not really a star, but derived from the A letter in a circle,
>> with the horizontal bar frequently replaced by some fire arm, or slnated
>> and looking more like a thin arrow head slightly pointing upward (Various
>> decorations could be added on top: a striker throwing a mollotov... or
>> flowers; a plus sign; a "V" on top to mean "victory"). The strokes were
>> most often very irregular, as if they were brushed very rapidly on a wall.
>> More polished forms have been used where it is a standard A in an circle
>> open at the bottom and a small curved leg. Not all of them want flags with
>> colors. Other groups just use a red-filled standard 5-pointed star, over a
>> plain black  background.
>>
>> In London still today, there's most often no star, just a red and black
>> flag (color cut on the diagonal). The red side or black side may be
>> attached on the hanging stem, but generally a black side is below the right
>> side. The red color varies also (green, dark purple, pink, orange,
>> white...) but the black color is seems to be always there (even if it's
>> just the classic circle A, that black may be used to fill the glyph, or the
>> background. There's no dedicated support, the symbols may be used
>> everywhere, integrated in all sort of graphics, made with various materials.
>>
>> The flag may be raised in all positions. In Australia, this is a vertical
>> rainbow over a black area.
>>
>> Other symbols of anarchism include a closed hand (fist) raised upward (in
>> a sign of protest) with a venom snake. The anarchist movements have always
>> been inventive and protecting against all sort of political regimes,
>> democartic or not, in fact they protest against all forms of state
>> government, and their official symbols.
>>
>> 2016-06-24 17:55 GMT+02:00 Garth Wallace <gwalla at gmail.com>:
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>>> But would anarchists even want their symbol to be encoded?
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 7:04 AM, "Jörg Knappen" <jknappen at web.de> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Talking about fancy five stars, besides the vertically split ones there
>>>> is the "Anarchist star" (a symbol for anarcho-syndicalism)
>>>> with a diagonal split in a upper left red half and a lower left black
>>>> half. Since there are political and ideological symbols encoded
>>>> in UNicode, maybe this one is worth encoding as well (probably twice,
>>>> once as a black and white plain symbol and once as a colourful Emoji).
>>>>
>>>> See here:
>>>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Anarcho-Syndicalism#/media/File:Anarchist_star.svg
>>>>
>>>> FIVE PIONTED STAR WITH BLACK LOWER RIGHT HALF = anarchist star
>>>> ANARCHIST STAR EMOJI
>>>>
>>>> --Jörg Knappen
>>>>
>>>> *Gesendet:* Freitag, 24. Juni 2016 um 14:12 Uhr
>>>> *Von:* "Frédéric Grosshans" <frederic.grosshans at gmail.com>
>>>> *An:* unicode at unicode.org
>>>> *Betreff:* Re: Adding half-star to Unicode?
>>>> Le 24/06/2016 00:37, Leo Broukhis a écrit :
>>>> > For a previous discussion on the topic, please see
>>>> > the thread "Missing geometric shapes" around 11/12/12
>>>> The thread starts here :
>>>> http://www.unicode.org/mail-arch/unicode-ml/y2012-m11/0008.html
>>>>
>>>> It contains an example of half-filled star used in RTL (Hebrew) context,
>>>> in an advertisement in Haaretz here
>>>> http://www.unicode.org/mail-arch/unicode-ml/y2012-m11/0024.html
>>>>
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