Future of Emoji? (was Re: Tag characters)

[Peter Constable]

Ah,yes. And Messenger “winks”. E.g.,

http://www.msn-tools.net/free-msn-winks-1.htm

I note that this has .swf files, and that’s what we saw one of the Japanese carriers saying they’d be moving to instead of PUA characters.


Peter

From: Unicode [mailto:unicode-bounces at unicode.org] On Behalf Of Peter Constable
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 8:47 AM
To: Shervin Afshar
Cc: unicode at unicode.org
Subject: RE: Future of Emoji? (was Re: Tag characters)

MSN Messenger supported extensible stickers years ago. A couple of sites still offering add-ons:

http://www.getsmile.com/
http://www.smileys4msn.com/


Peter

From: Shervin Afshar [mailto:shervinafshar at gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 10:40 PM
To: Peter Constable
Cc: unicode at unicode.org<mailto:unicode at unicode.org>
Subject: Re: Future of Emoji? (was Re: Tag characters)

Good point. I missed these while looking into compatibility symbols. Of course, as with Yahoo[1] and MSN[2] Messenger emoji sets, most of these are mappable to current or proposed sets of Unicode emoji (e.g. Lips Sealed ≈ U+1F910 ZIPPER-MOUTH FACE). It would be interesting to see how the extended support for flags, most of smiley faces, objects, etc. on all platforms would affect this approach.

My idea of a sticker-based solution is something more like Facebook's[3] or Line's[4] implementations.

[1]: http://www.unicode.org/L2/L2015/15059-emoji-im-yahoo.pdf
[2]: http://www.unicode.org/L2/L2015/15058-emoji-im-msn.pdf
[3]: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/14/facebook-stickers-comments_n_5982546.html
[4]: https://creator.line.me/en/guideline/


↪ Shervin

On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 9:37 PM, Peter Constable <petercon at microsoft.com<mailto:petercon at microsoft.com>> wrote:
Skype uses stickers, including animated stickers. Here’s the documented set:

https://support.skype.com/en/faq/FA12330/what-is-the-full-list-of-emoticons

And if you search, you’ll find lots more “hidden” emoticons, like “(bartlett)”.



Peter


From: Shervin Afshar [mailto:shervinafshar at gmail.com<mailto:shervinafshar at gmail.com>]
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 8:12 PM
To: Peter Constable
Cc: unicode at unicode.org<mailto:unicode at unicode.org>
Subject: Future of Emoji? (was Re: Tag characters)

Peter,

This very topic was discussed in last meeting of the subcommittee and my impression is that there are plans to promote the use of embedded graphics (aka stickers) either through expansions to section 8 of TR51 or through some other means. It should also be noted that none of current members of Unicode seem to have a sticker-based implementation (with the exception of an experimental limited trial by Twitter[1]).

[1]: http://mashable.com/2015/04/16/twitter-star-wars-emoji/


↪ Shervin

On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 7:44 PM, Peter Constable <petercon at microsoft.com<mailto:petercon at microsoft.com>> wrote:
And yet UTC devotes lots of effort (with an entire subcommittee) to encode more emoji as characters, but no effort toward any preferred longer term solution not based on characters.


Peter

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Subject: Re: Tag characters

Thinking about this further, could the technique be used to solve the requirements of
section 8 Longer Term Solutions

IMO, the industry preferred longer term solution (which is also discussed in that section with few existing examples) for emoji, is not going to be based on characters.


↪ Shervin

On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 1:40 PM, William_J_G Overington <wjgo_10009 at btinternet.com<mailto:wjgo_10009 at btinternet.com>> wrote:
> What else would be possible if the same sort of technique were applied to another base character?


Thinking about this further, could the technique be used to solve the requirements of

section 8 Longer Term Solutions

of

http://www.unicode.org/reports/tr51/tr51-2.html

?


Both colour pixel map and colour OpenType vector font solutions would be possible.


Colour voxel map and colour vector 3d solids solutions are worth thinking about too as fun coding thought experiments that could possibly lead to useful practical results.



William Overington


14 May 2015



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