Proposal for German capital letter "=?utf-8?q?=C3=9F?="

Marc Blanchet marc.blanchet at
Wed Dec 9 23:35:35 CST 2015

On 9 Dec 2015, at 23:32, Martin J. Dürst wrote:

> On 2015/12/10 09:30, Mark E. Shoulson wrote:
>> I remember when we went through all this the first time around, 
>> encoding
>> ẞ in the first place.  People were saying "But the Duden says 
>> no!!!" And
>> someone then pointed out, "Please close your Duden and cast your gaze
>> upon ITS FRONT COVER, where you will find written in inch-high 
>> capitals
>> plain as day, "DER GROẞE DUDEN"
>> (  So in terms of
>> prescription vs description, the Duden pretty much torpedoes itself.
> This is an interesting example of a phenomenon that turns up in many 
> other contexts, too. A similar example is the use of accents on 
> upper-case letters in French in France where 'officially', upper-case 
> letters are written without accents.

while in Québec, upper-case letters are written _with_ accents. l10n…


> When working on internationalization, it's always good to keep eyes 
> open and not just only follow the rules.
> However, the example is also somewhat misleading. The book in the 
> picture is clearly quite old. The Duden that was cited is new. I 
> checked with "Der Grosse Duden" on Amazon, but all the books I found 
> had the officially correct spelling. On the other hand, I remember 
> that when the upper-case sharp s came up for discussion in Unicode, 
> source material showed that it was somewhat popular quite some time 
> ago (possibly close in age with the old Duden picture). So we would 
> have to go back and check the book in the picture to see what it says 
> about ß to be able to claim that Duden was (at some point in time) 
> inconsistent with itself.
> Regards,   Martin.
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