What happened to...?

Karl Williamson public at khwilliamson.com
Mon Sep 22 13:11:36 CDT 2014


On 09/20/2014 03:32 AM, Mark Davis ☕️ wrote:
> I agree that we should minute at least some reason for declining. It
> need only be a sentence or two.

I would hope that the requesters get a detailed explanation of the 
rejection.  It would be very wrong not to do so.  If so, then the 
minutes could just copy and paste, deleting unnecessary detail.
>
> (BTW I wasn't at that discussion.)
>
> {phone}
>
> On Sep 20, 2014 3:17 AM, "Asmus Freytag" <asmusf at ix.netcom.com
> <mailto:asmusf at ix.netcom.com>> wrote:
>
>     On 9/19/2014 5:38 PM, Whistler, Ken wrote:
>
>         Michael,
>
>             "Declines to take action” is pretty thin.
>
>         A proposal which is declined by the UTC doesn't automatically
>         create an obligation to write an extended dissertation explaining
>         the rationale and putting that rationale on record. It might be
>         one thing if there were a lot of controversy involved, and one
>         group of participants asked for a rationale to be recorded,
>         despite not having a consensus to move on something -- but
>         this one wasn't even close. Nobody in the committee felt
>         encoding was justified in this case.
>
>         And not every mark on paper -- not even every mark *printed*
>         in typeset material on paper -- is automatically an obvious
>         candidate for encoding with a simple, plain text character
>         representation.
>
>
>     True, but a rationale (note that's not necessarily a dissertation)
>     never hurts.
>
>     "Declines to take action” may look like it is equivalent to "Nobody
>     in the committee felt
>     encoding was justified in this case", but it really isn't. The
>     former allows for all sorts of non-substantive reasons, but the
>     latter is pretty clear: the submitter failed to make the case.
>
>     What you are looking for is something equivalent to "summary
>     dismissal" of a legal action, but even there this usually gets some
>     rationale or it has the benefit of a standardized legal principle
>     (don't know for a fact, but sounds plausible).
>
>
>
>     A./
>
>
>         --Ken
>
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