How to disable Indic syllable form editing in MS word

हरिराम via Indic indic at unicode.org
Thu Dec 7 01:26:18 CST 2017


Sir,

More rending problems found in
Babelpad

For example I copied following line from MS word 2007

*वर्ष सितंबर*, *2017 की स्‍थिति के अनुसार राजभाषा कार्यान्वयन समिति की
बैठकों की स्‍थिति  *
*( लक्ष्‍य वर्ष में 4 बैठकें )*

and pasted it in Babelpad

But it shows wrongly as (Screenshot)


*[image: Inline image 1]*

so Babelpad is not a good Indic Editor like MS word.

If you have any Trick/tool to temporarily disable the Indic Shaping Engine
in MS word
to enable character-level editing, Kindly inform.

With regards.


हरिराम
प्रगत भारत <http://hariraama.blogspot.in>

On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 8:46 AM, Kan!skA via Indic <indic at unicode.org> wrote:

> Strongly Agree with Richard, It's not a layout related issue.
>
> You may use BabelPad, for your concerned issue.
> http://www.babelstone.co.uk/Software/BabelPad.html
>
>
> Best Regards,
> Kaniska PSS Nagraj
> https://kanis.hk
>
>
> On 07-Dec-17 4:49 AM, Richard Wordingham via Indic wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 6 Dec 2017 18:47:36 +0530
>> हरिराम via Indic <indic at unicode.org> wrote:
>>
>> While working in MS word 2007, 2010 or higher
>>>
>>> When one try to Find & replace any particular Unicode Character
>>> For Example
>>> to replace all
>>> 'ा' depended vowel AA
>>> with
>>> 'ि' depended vowel i
>>>
>>> it does not works.
>>>
>>> Only full syllable with ' ा' i.e. का, खा, गा, etc. has to be search
>>> and replaced one by one with many repeats.
>>>
>>> This takes too much time and unnecessary repeats.
>>>
>>> ----
>>> 2.
>>>
>>> When one try to delete a Indic Character with delete key putting the
>>> cursor before a syllable, the right side entire syllable is being
>>> deleted.
>>>
>>> How to delete a particular character instead of entire syllable?
>>>
>>> How to disable the Indic layout feature in MS word?
>>>
>>> Would anybody guide please?
>>>
>> Are you a real Indian?  UTS#29
>> (https://www.unicode.org/reports/tr29/tr29-31.html) Section 3 Paragraph
>> 1 strongly suggests that what you are trying to do is not natural.
>>
>> These particular behaviours you are complaining of annoy me
>> intensely, but I'm a Westerner and so have no rights in these matters.
>>
>> Indic layout is not particularly guilty, though it makes editing
>> clusters difficult.  SIL has a split cursor which attempts to address
>> the issue, but I've only seen it in their Worldpad text editor.
>> Another technique, which has been available in emacs (I'm unsure of the
>> current status), enables one to move the cursor into a cluster Unicode
>> character by character, and disables shaping across the cluster.  Even
>> this will have shortcomings when working with two part vowels
>> canonically equivalent to a single character - one won't know whether
>> one has one character or two until one steps into the cluster.
>>
>> Emacs does, by default, provide what I consider the civilised behaviour,
>> whereby pressing the delete key deletes the next character.  That makes
>> my life much easier, as I deal with Indic scripts in which it is not at
>> all unusual to have 3 or more marks attached to a single base character.
>>
>> Richard.
>>
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