From ecki at zusammenkunft.net  Tue Sep 15 05:04:30 2020
From: ecki at zusammenkunft.net (Bernd Eckenfels)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2020 10:04:30 +0000
Subject: Justification of weekOfPreference
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Hello,



I was Looking into the CLDR supplemental week data and noticed, that for (eg.) Germany the weekOfPreference list Looks like:



<weekOfPreference ordering="weekOfDate weekOfMonth weekOfInterval" locales="bg de iw pt ur zh"/>



This might be historically true, but using the ISO week number in german business communication is (to my perception) almost the only common used method - yet weekOfYear is not even listed as the least prio.



So I was wondering based on which data this sequence is produced, and when is it last revised? I havent found a methodology/justification for this entry.



There is also the Problem, that it is highly context dependend. For example in direct discussions about Upcoming month, using the week of month might be quite common ? also using weekofDate and weekOfInterval are often used when someone asks for clarification, but not necessarily initially.



Gruss

Bernd

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From christoph.paeper at crissov.de  Wed Sep 16 03:00:28 2020
From: christoph.paeper at crissov.de (=?utf-8?Q?Christoph_P=C3=A4per?=)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2020 10:00:28 +0200
Subject: Justification of weekOfPreference
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Bernd Eckenfels via CLDR-Users <cldr-users at unicode.org>:
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> <weekOfPreference ordering="weekOfDate weekOfMonth weekOfInterval" locales="bg de iw pt ur zh"/>
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> This might be historically true, but using the ISO week number in german business communication is (to my perception) almost the only common used method - yet weekOfYear is not even listed as the least prio.

I agree, also see < https://unicode-org.atlassian.net/browse/CLDR-10970>. 
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From kipcole9 at gmail.com  Wed Sep 30 23:11:42 2020
From: kipcole9 at gmail.com (Kip Cole)
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2020 12:11:42 +0800
Subject: Migration/testing on CLD38-alpha
Message-ID: <4862DC82-2F15-4BB7-B7AD-7C21144F1113@gmail.com>

Just a short note to say that the migration to CLDR38 for my implementation (for the Elixir language, not ICU based) has been smooth - thanks to everyone involved. Looking forward to the final release.

I have only one open issue which is related to the new ?compact decimal? format used in some of the integer plural rules - and frankly I don?t really understand what the intent is and the examples in TR35 aren?t really helping me too much.  Seems I need to consider this format (ie 1e6) as a distinct representation from an integer. On the platform I?m on, the alternative would be a fixed decimal and I can derive the required operands from that but it feels like its not quite the right fit.  Any internal design documents on this topic?

Thanks again for a solid release,

?Kip