Re: Igbo [ig] exemplar characters set should not have ẹ
Patrick Chew via CLDR-Users
cldr-users at unicode.org
Wed Nov 14 15:58:47 CST 2018
While unlikely to be canonical resource, the following show use of <ẹ>,
unmarked-as-dialect *and* overtly marked as Igbo dialects:
https://wikitravel.org/en/Igbo_phrasebook
An Ókárá Ẹ̀kpẹ̀ resist-dyed with nsibidi symbols
ọ̀gị́nị́ kwánụ́/gị́nị́ mẹ̀rẹ̀ very direct and informal, literally
'what's happening'.
How are you? Kèdú kà ímẹ̀rẹ̀?
Thank you. Dālụ́/Imẹ̄lá.
buttocks ị́kẹ̀
red mmẹ-mmẹ, uhie
Where does this train/bus go? Ébé òlé ka ụgbo igwẹ/bosu nka na ga?
Where is the train/bus to _____? Ébé òlé ka ụgbo igwẹ/bosu dị, nke na ga
_____?
Does this train/bus stop in _____? Ụgbo igwẹ/bosu nka, ọ nà kúshí na
_____?
When does the train/bus for _____ leave? Mgbe òle ka ụgbo igwẹ/bosu nke
na ga _____?
When will this train/bus arrive in _____? Mgbe òle ka ụgbo igwẹ/bosu nkè
gi ru _____?
...the airport? ... ẹ̄pọ̀tụ̀?
A glass of red/white wine, please. Nkalama ḿmáñyá mmẹ mmẹ/ọchá, biko.
Do you have this in my size? Ì nwẹrẹ ihëa na àsàm?/Ì nwẹrẹ ihëa na amàm?
You're cheating me. Ì na è fébém na ányá./I na ẹ mérém mu jobu.
Can I have a bag? Ì nwẹrẹ àkpà?
I haven't done anything wrong. Ọ̀ dị́ghị̀ íhyéḿ mẹ̀rẹ̀.
Chínēkè é kwélé ị́hyẹ́ ọ́jọ̄ 'God will not allow a bad thing' An
exclamation made out of shock when a bad thing happens.
https://books.google.com/books?id=FD4iDAAAQBAJ&pg=PA58&dq=%E1%BA%B9&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj2v_CO7tTeAhVRJDQIHWbKDzMQ6AEIKjAA#v=onepage&q=%E1%BA%B9&f=false
"Affixation and Auxiliaries in Igbo" by Onumajuru, Virginia Chinwe
Ọnịcha Igbo <ẹ>
https://www.academia.edu/23308295/On_the_Vowels_of_Imilike_Dialect_of_the_Igbo_Laanguage
"On the Vowels of Imilike Dialect of the Igbo Laanguage" (Gerald Nweya)
Imilike Igbo
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/253846534_Reflections_on_Address_Politeness_in_Igbo_Family
Mbieri Igbo
http://www.skase.sk/Volumes/JTL26/pdf_doc/04.pdf
"… there are many sounds (mainly consonants found in some other dialects of
Igbo which are lacking in the Onwu Orthography."
On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 12:25 PM Lorna Evans via CLDR-Users <
cldr-users at unicode.org> wrote:
> FYI U+1EB9 is not listed for Igbo in Hartell's "Alphabets of Africa"
> either.
> On 11/14/2018 12:54 PM, Mark Davis ☕️ via CLDR-Users wrote:
>
> We are planning to move to Jira, which should take care of the spam issues.
>
> The question is whether ẹ U+1EB9 was used historically or is used special
> circumstances in Igbo (eg foreign words, dialects, etc); in either of those
> cases it should be moved to "aux".
>
> Mark
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 11:21 AM Denis Jacquerye via CLDR-Users <
> cldr-users at unicode.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I’m posting this here since the spambot refuses to let me open new issues
>> on the Bug Tracking site.
>>
>> ẹ U+1EB9 doesn’t seem to be used in Igbo, yet it is listed in the CLDR
>> Igbo [ig] locale default exemplar characters set.
>> It cannot be found in:
>> - Igbo Wikipedia site
>> - BBC Igbo site
>> - Wikipedia Igbo Language article
>> - Kay Williamson, *Dictionary of Ọ̀nị̀chà Igbo*, 2006
>> - Yvonne C. Mbanefo, *Okowaokwu Igbo Umuaka : Igbo Dictionary for
>> Children*, 2016
>> - Windows Igbo keyboard layout
>>
>>
>> - I haven’t checked Ayo Bamgbose, Orthographies of Nigerian
>> languages: manual I, Lagos, Federal Ministry of Education, National
>> Language Centre, 1982.
>>
>>
>> ẹ U+1EB9 should be removed from the Igbo [ig] default exemplar characters
>> set
>> Cheers,
>> --
>> Denis Moyogo Jacquerye
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