iPhone's other languages list from CLDR?

Sun Jan 3 23:04:42 CST 2016

Basically:
1) How the list was generated / languages chosen
2) What they plan to do with it (or how they foresee it developing if 
the strategy is to encourage apps)

I am also pursuing other avenues also, but any help appreciated. Nothing 
urgent, but it looks like something significant, given the length and 
composition of the list.

Don

On 1/3/2016 12:40 AM, Steven R. Loomis wrote:
> You are welcome, Don.
>  Can you give some more detail on what you are looking for?
> -s
>
>
>> El dic 30, 2015, a las 11:42 AM, Don Osborn <dzo at bisharat.net 
>> <mailto:dzo at bisharat.net>> escribió:
>>
>> Thank you Shervin and Steven for these responses.
>>
>> Steven, This list with notes is especially helpful - am still 
>> digesting. Will compare in more detail with the iPhone list. That 
>> exercise would be more rewarding in a cross-operating system 
>> comparison - if there were a clear list of what's on Android.
>>
>> Also hoping for more info from someone at Apple who is well-placed to 
>> discuss their approach.
>>
>> Best wishes for the New Year 2016!
>>
>> Don
>>
>>
>> On 12/29/2015 2:44 PM, Steven R. Loomis wrote:
>>> • ICU (which uses CLDR) is noted in iOS and MacOSX’s license information
>>> • ICU open source (for OSX ) is linked here - 
>>> http://opensource.apple.com/source/ICU/ICU-551.41/
>>> • default calendar information in CLDR is by region and not by language
>>> • Many of these locales listed are in CLDR. I printed out a list of 
>>> all locales that are in Africa (002):
>>>  ( generator source here 
>>> https://gist.github.com/srl295/f87d06a1405a23e85827 ) . I did not 
>>> correlate this to the iphone 6 list exactly but it seems many, but 
>>> not all, are actually CLDR locales.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> So these are locales of Africa which have content in CLDR:
>>>
>>> Afar (Djibouti) - aa-DJ [SEED]
>>> Afar (Eritrea) - aa-ER [SEED]
>>> Afar (Ethiopia) - aa-ET [SEED]
>>> Afrikaans (Namibia) - af-NA
>>> Afrikaans (South Africa) - af-ZA
>>> Aghem (Cameroon) - agq-CM
>>> Akan (Ghana) - ak-GH
>>> Akoose (Cameroon) - bss-CM [SEED]
>>> Amharic (Ethiopia) - am-ET
>>> Arabic (Algeria) - ar-DZ
>>> Arabic (Chad) - ar-TD
>>> Arabic (Comoros) - ar-KM
>>> Arabic (Djibouti) - ar-DJ
>>> Arabic (Egypt) - ar-EG
>>> Arabic (Eritrea) - ar-ER
>>> Arabic (Libya) - ar-LY
>>> Arabic (Mauritania) - ar-MR
>>> Arabic (Morocco) - ar-MA
>>> Arabic (Somalia) - ar-SO
>>> Arabic (South Sudan) - ar-SS
>>> Arabic (Sudan) - ar-SD
>>> Arabic (Tunisia) - ar-TN
>>> Arabic (Western Sahara) - ar-EH
>>> Asu (Tanzania) - asa-TZ
>>> Atsam (Nigeria) - cch-NG [SEED]
>>> Bafia (Cameroon) - ksf-CM
>>> Bambara (Mali) - bm-ML
>>> Bambara (N’Ko, Mali) - bm-Nkoo-ML [SEED]
>>> Basaa (Cameroon) - bas-CM
>>> Bemba (Zambia) - bem-ZM
>>> Bena (Tanzania) - bez-TZ
>>> Blin (Eritrea) - byn-ER [SEED]
>>> Central Atlas Tamazight (Morocco) - tzm-MA
>>> Chiga (Uganda) - cgg-UG
>>> Duala (Cameroon) - dua-CM
>>> Embu (Kenya) - ebu-KE
>>> English (Botswana) - en-BW
>>> English (Burundi) - en-BI
>>> English (Cameroon) - en-CM
>>> English (Eritrea) - en-ER
>>> English (Gambia) - en-GM
>>> English (Ghana) - en-GH
>>> English (Kenya) - en-KE
>>> English (Lesotho) - en-LS
>>> English (Liberia) - en-LR
>>> English (Madagascar) - en-MG
>>> English (Malawi) - en-MW
>>> English (Mauritius) - en-MU
>>> English (Namibia) - en-NA
>>> English (Nigeria) - en-NG
>>> English (Rwanda) - en-RW
>>> English (Seychelles) - en-SC
>>> English (Sierra Leone) - en-SL
>>> English (South Africa) - en-ZA
>>> English (South Sudan) - en-SS
>>> English (St. Helena) - en-SH
>>> English (Sudan) - en-SD
>>> English (Swaziland) - en-SZ
>>> English (Tanzania) - en-TZ
>>> English (Uganda) - en-UG
>>> English (Zambia) - en-ZM
>>> English (Zimbabwe) - en-ZW
>>> Ewe (Ghana) - ee-GH
>>> Ewe (Togo) - ee-TG
>>> Ewondo (Cameroon) - ewo-CM
>>> French (Algeria) - fr-DZ
>>> French (Benin) - fr-BJ
>>> French (Burkina Faso) - fr-BF
>>> French (Burundi) - fr-BI
>>> French (Cameroon) - fr-CM
>>> French (Central African Republic) - fr-CF
>>> French (Chad) - fr-TD
>>> French (Comoros) - fr-KM
>>> French (Congo - Brazzaville) - fr-CG
>>> French (Congo - Kinshasa) - fr-CD
>>> French (Côte d’Ivoire) - fr-CI
>>> French (Djibouti) - fr-DJ
>>> French (Equatorial Guinea) - fr-GQ
>>> French (Gabon) - fr-GA
>>> French (Guinea) - fr-GN
>>> French (Madagascar) - fr-MG
>>> French (Mali) - fr-ML
>>> French (Mauritania) - fr-MR
>>> French (Mauritius) - fr-MU
>>> French (Mayotte) - fr-YT
>>> French (Morocco) - fr-MA
>>> French (Niger) - fr-NE
>>> French (Réunion) - fr-RE
>>> French (Rwanda) - fr-RW
>>> French (Senegal) - fr-SN
>>> French (Seychelles) - fr-SC
>>> French (Togo) - fr-TG
>>> French (Tunisia) - fr-TN
>>> Fulah (Cameroon) - ff-CM
>>> Fulah (Guinea) - ff-GN
>>> Fulah (Mauritania) - ff-MR
>>> Fulah (Senegal) - ff-SN
>>> Ga (Ghana) - gaa-GH [SEED]
>>> Ganda (Uganda) - lg-UG
>>> Geez (Eritrea) - gez-ER [SEED]
>>> Geez (Ethiopia) - gez-ET [SEED]
>>> Gusii (Kenya) - guz-KE
>>> Hausa (Arabic, Nigeria) - ha-Arab-NG [SEED]
>>> Hausa (Arabic, Sudan) - ha-Arab-SD [SEED]
>>> Hausa (Ghana) - ha-GH
>>> Hausa (Niger) - ha-NE
>>> Hausa (Nigeria) - ha-NG
>>> Igbo (Nigeria) - ig-NG
>>> Jju (Nigeria) - kaj-NG [SEED]
>>> Jola-Fonyi (Senegal) - dyo-SN
>>> Kabuverdianu (Cape Verde) - kea-CV
>>> Kabyle (Algeria) - kab-DZ
>>> Kako (Cameroon) - kkj-CM
>>> Kalenjin (Kenya) - kln-KE
>>> Kamba (Kenya) - kam-KE
>>> Kenyang (Cameroon) - ken-CM [SEED]
>>> Kikuyu (Kenya) - ki-KE
>>> Kinyarwanda (Rwanda) - rw-RW
>>> Koyraboro Senni (Mali) - ses-ML
>>> Koyra Chiini (Mali) - khq-ML
>>> Kpelle (Guinea) - kpe-GN [SEED]
>>> Kpelle (Liberia) - kpe-LR [SEED]
>>> Kwasio (Cameroon) - nmg-CM
>>> Langi (Tanzania) - lag-TZ
>>> Lingala (Angola) - ln-AO
>>> Lingala (Central African Republic) - ln-CF
>>> Lingala (Congo - Brazzaville) - ln-CG
>>> Lingala (Congo - Kinshasa) - ln-CD
>>> Luba-Katanga (Congo - Kinshasa) - lu-CD
>>> Luo (Kenya) - luo-KE
>>> Luyia (Kenya) - luy-KE
>>> Machame (Tanzania) - jmc-TZ
>>> Makhuwa-Meetto (Mozambique) - mgh-MZ
>>> Makonde (Tanzania) - kde-TZ
>>> Malagasy (Madagascar) - mg-MG
>>> Masai (Kenya) - mas-KE
>>> Masai (Tanzania) - mas-TZ
>>> Meru (Kenya) - mer-KE
>>> Metaʼ (Cameroon) - mgo-CM
>>> Morisyen (Mauritius) - mfe-MU
>>> Mundang (Cameroon) - mua-CM
>>> Nama (Namibia) - naq-NA
>>> Ngiemboon (Cameroon) - nnh-CM
>>> Ngomba (Cameroon) - jgo-CM
>>> Northern Sotho (South Africa) - nso-ZA [SEED]
>>> North Ndebele (Zimbabwe) - nd-ZW
>>> Nuer (South Sudan) - nus-SS
>>> Nyanja (Malawi) - ny-MW [SEED]
>>> Nyankole (Uganda) - nyn-UG
>>> N’Ko (Guinea) - nqo-GN [SEED]
>>> Oromo (Ethiopia) - om-ET
>>> Oromo (Kenya) - om-KE
>>> Portuguese (Angola) - pt-AO
>>> Portuguese (Cape Verde) - pt-CV
>>> Portuguese (Guinea-Bissau) - pt-GW
>>> Portuguese (Mozambique) - pt-MZ
>>> Portuguese (São Tomé & Príncipe) - pt-ST
>>> Rombo (Tanzania) - rof-TZ
>>> Rundi (Burundi) - rn-BI
>>> Rwa (Tanzania) - rwk-TZ
>>> Saho (Eritrea) - ssy-ER [SEED]
>>> Samburu (Kenya) - saq-KE
>>> Sango (Central African Republic) - sg-CF
>>> Sangu (Tanzania) - sbp-TZ
>>> Sena (Mozambique) - seh-MZ
>>> Shambala (Tanzania) - ksb-TZ
>>> Shona (Zimbabwe) - sn-ZW
>>> Sidamo (Ethiopia) - sid-ET [SEED]
>>> Soga (Uganda) - xog-UG
>>> Somali (Djibouti) - so-DJ
>>> Somali (Ethiopia) - so-ET
>>> Somali (Kenya) - so-KE
>>> Somali (Somalia) - so-SO
>>> Southern Sotho (Lesotho) - st-LS [SEED]
>>> Southern Sotho (South Africa) - st-ZA [SEED]
>>> South Ndebele (South Africa) - nr-ZA [SEED]
>>> Spanish (Canary Islands) - es-IC
>>> Spanish (Ceuta & Melilla) - es-EA
>>> Spanish (Equatorial Guinea) - es-GQ
>>> Standard Moroccan Tamazight (Morocco) - zgh-MA
>>> Swahili (Congo - Kinshasa) - sw-CD
>>> Swahili (Kenya) - sw-KE
>>> Swahili (Tanzania) - sw-TZ
>>> Swahili (Uganda) - sw-UG
>>> Swati (South Africa) - ss-ZA [SEED]
>>> Swati (Swaziland) - ss-SZ [SEED]
>>> Tachelhit (Latin, Morocco) - shi-Latn-MA
>>> Tachelhit (Tifinagh, Morocco) - shi-Tfng-MA
>>> Taita (Kenya) - dav-KE
>>> Tasawaq (Niger) - twq-NE
>>> Teso (Kenya) - teo-KE
>>> Teso (Uganda) - teo-UG
>>> Tigre (Eritrea) - tig-ER [SEED]
>>> Tigrinya (Eritrea) - ti-ER
>>> Tigrinya (Ethiopia) - ti-ET
>>> Tsonga (South Africa) - ts-ZA [SEED]
>>> Tswana (Botswana) - tn-BW [SEED]
>>> Tswana (South Africa) - tn-ZA [SEED]
>>> Tyap (Nigeria) - kcg-NG [SEED]
>>> Vai (Latin, Liberia) - vai-Latn-LR
>>> Vai (Vai, Liberia) - vai-Vaii-LR
>>> Venda (South Africa) - ve-ZA [SEED]
>>> Vunjo (Tanzania) - vun-TZ
>>> Wolaytta (Ethiopia) - wal-ET [SEED]
>>> Wolof (Senegal) - wo-SN [SEED]
>>> Xhosa (South Africa) - xh-ZA [SEED]
>>> Yangben (Cameroon) - yav-CM
>>> Yoruba (Benin) - yo-BJ
>>> Yoruba (Nigeria) - yo-NG
>>> Zarma (Niger) - dje-NE
>>> Zulu (South Africa) - zu-ZA
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> El dic 29, 2015, a las 8:30 AM, Shervin Afshar 
>>>> <shervinafshar at gmail.com <mailto:shervinafshar at gmail.com>> escribió:
>>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> Those are names of languages available as part of data for 
>>>> CLDR-supported locales. The mere fact that CLDR has this data 
>>>> doesn't necessarily mean that that language is a CLDR locale; i.e. 
>>>> having all sort of other information (date/time format, numbers, 
>>>> etc.) beyond these names. Here is the language name for Hausa as 
>>>> appearing in data file for German:
>>>>
>>>> http://unicode.org/cldr/trac/browser/trunk/common/main/de.xml#L228
>>>>
>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>> Shervin
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 29, 2015 8:01 AM, "Don Osborn" <dzo at bisharat.net 
>>>> <mailto:dzo at bisharat.net>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     Greetings, Does anyone know if Apple relied on CLDR for its
>>>>     long list of "other languages" (~240 by my estimation) on
>>>>     iPhone6c(plus)? Apologies that this is off-topic (replies
>>>>     offline probably best).
>>>>
>>>>     The list of "other languages" - not the "iPhone languages"
>>>>     fully supported in iOS - is impressive, though looking at some
>>>>     of the 74 African languages* included (by my count) it seems
>>>>     most are not supported beyond calendars. Charles Riley
>>>>     suggested offline that some aspects of the list make it appear
>>>>     that it lists what's on CLDR. However there are some languages
>>>>     one would expect to see that are not there (Hausa, Amharic,
>>>>     among others).
>>>>
>>>>     Really interested to know more about Apple's thinking and
>>>>     methods on this. TIA for any info or leads.
>>>>
>>>>     Best wishes to all for the New Year 2016.
>>>>
>>>>     Don Osborn
>>>>
>>>>     *
>>>>     http://niamey.blogspot.com/2015/12/list-of-african-languages-on-iphone6s.html
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