RBNF rule semantics for a ruleset when there is no negative number rule

[Philippe Verdy]

But in fact this negative rule is inherited from the default locale, which
will insert the negative sign. You should then find a matching
negative-number rule in the inherited locales.

2016-12-02 17:47 GMT+01:00 Philippe Verdy <verdy_p at wanadoo.fr>:

> Note that there should be a negative-number rule there to format the sign
> and separately the absolute value 50.
>
> 2016-12-02 17:45 GMT+01:00 Philippe Verdy <verdy_p at wanadoo.fr>:
>
>> rule for "4" matches the "Binary-search the rule list for the rule with
>> the highest base value less than or equal to the number.", in fact all
>> rules for "0", "3" and "4" have a base value less than or equal to the
>> number 50. The binary search will point you just above rule for "4", which
>> is the highest base value to use.
>>
>> 2016-12-02 10:52 GMT+01:00 Kip Cole <kipcole9 at gmail.com>:
>>
>>> I am writing some software using the CLDR.  I am stuck on working out
>>> the right semantics for formatting a number using RBNF and there is no
>>> matching rule within a specified ruleset.
>>>
>>> For example (I’m writing this in Elixir but I think the intent is clear)
>>> formatting the negative integer -50 in the locale “hr”:
>>>
>>>          iex> Cldr.Rbnf.Spellout.spellout_ordinal_neuter(-50, "hr”)
>>>
>>> returns an error because in the locale “hr”, the ruleset for
>>> spellout-ordinal-neuter has the following rules (in 30.0.2, using the json
>>> github content):
>>>
>>>         "%spellout-ordinal-neuter": {
>>>           "0": "=%%spellout-ordinal-base=o;",
>>>           "3": "=%%spellout-ordinal-base=e;",
>>>           "4": "=%%spellout-ordinal-base=o;"
>>>         }
>>>
>>> So that by my understanding, a negative number can’t be formatted in
>>> this ruleset for this locale.  The nearest understanding I can get is from
>>> http://www.icu-project.org/apiref/icu4c/classRuleBasedNumberFormat.html
>>> which says:
>>>
>>>         • If the number is negative, use the negative-number rule.
>>>         • If the number has a fractional part and is greater than 1, use
>>> the improper fraction rule.
>>>         • If the number has a fractional part and is between 0 and 1,
>>> use the proper fraction rule.
>>>         • Binary-search the rule list for the rule with the highest base
>>> value less than or equal to the number. If that rule has two substitutions,
>>> its base value is not an even multiple of its divisor, and the number is an
>>> even multiple of the rule's divisor, use the rule that precedes it in the
>>> rule list. Otherwise, use the rule itself.
>>>
>>> Given a negative integer in this context then:
>>>
>>> 1. There is no negative number rule
>>> 2. There is no rule that satisfies "Binary-search the rule list for the
>>> rule with the highest base value less than or equal to the number.”
>>>
>>> Are then any additional semantics intended to cover this case or is an
>>> error the appropriate response?
>>>
>>> Many thanks.
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>>
>>
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