From emmo at us.ibm.com  Tue Sep  1 00:09:28 2015
From: emmo at us.ibm.com (John Emmons)
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2015 00:09:28 -0500
Subject: Preliminary JSON available for release 28
Message-ID: <OFC854B260.204354F8-ON86257EB3.0019AA13-86257EB3.001C55BE@us.ibm.com>

A preliminary version of the JSON for the upcoming CLDR release 28 is now 
available on github for testing.  Please see 
https://github.com/unicode-cldr/cldr-json for details.  Any errors or 
omissions should be reported via CLDR trac by filing a new ticket at 
http://unicode.org/cldr/trac/newticket


Regards,

John C. Emmons
Globalization Architect & Unicode CLDR TC Chairman
IBM Software Group
Internet: emmo at us.ibm.com
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From richard.wordingham at ntlworld.com  Wed Sep  2 13:19:03 2015
From: richard.wordingham at ntlworld.com (Richard Wordingham)
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2015 19:19:03 +0100
Subject: Status of Sanskrit
Message-ID: <20150902191903.15e1b5fc@JRWUBU2>

I am confused by the status of Sanskrit in CLDR.  I can't find it in
the CLDR 27.0.1 release, yet I find a live ticket on its collation
going back 5 years.  Could someone please explain what is going on, or
better, how I should have been able to find this information myself.

Richard.

From rick at unicode.org  Thu Sep  3 11:32:21 2015
From: rick at unicode.org (Rick McGowan)
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2015 09:32:21 -0700
Subject: The proposed update LDML specification for CLDR Release 28 now
 available for review
Message-ID: <55E87615.6010307@unicode.org>

A proposed update to the LDML specification (UTS #35) will be available 
for review as of Monday, September 7 at 06:00 GMT. The open review 
period closes on Monday, September 14 at 06:00 GMT. (This is a short 
review period, because CLDR 28 is scheduled for release in the week of 
September 16.)

The proposed update will be at http://unicode.org/reports/tr35/proposed.html

To report bugs in the specification, please use 
http://unicode.org/cldr/trac/newticket


From Christopher.Chapman at monotype.com  Mon Sep 14 12:49:55 2015
From: Christopher.Chapman at monotype.com (Chapman, Christopher)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2015 17:49:55 +0000
Subject: Missing some language names?
Message-ID: <2f08474732424672ad9ade2c136aa530@wob-maildb-03.agfamonotype.org>

Hi Folks,

I'm just starting to use the CLDR and I apologize if this is a na?ve question, but should I be able to find mappings of all the language tags used in the CLDR to their full names in the <Languages> sections of the files in core/common/main (e.g. core/common/main/en.xml)?  I ask, because I found only some of them there, not all of them.

For example, in core/common/supplemental/supplementalData.xml, I see entries like this:
                                <territory type="AF" gdp="45300000000" literacyPercent="28.1" population="31822800">           <!--Afghanistan-->
                                                <languagePopulation type="fa" populationPercent="50" officialStatus="official"/>          <!--Persian-->
                                                <languagePopulation type="ps" populationPercent="43" officialStatus="official" references="R1055"/>  <!--Pashto-->
                                                <languagePopulation type="haz" populationPercent="5.9"/>     <!--Hazaragi-->
                                                <languagePopulation type="uz_Arab" populationPercent="4.7" officialStatus="official_regional"/>          <!--Uzbek (Arabic)-->
                                                <languagePopulation type="tk_Latn" populationPercent="1.7" officialStatus="official_regional"/>          <!--Turkmen (Latin)-->
                                                <languagePopulation type="prd" populationPercent="1.2"/>     <!--Parsi-Dari-->
                                                <languagePopulation type="bal" populationPercent="0.67" officialStatus="official_regional"/>          <!--Baluchi-->
                                                <languagePopulation type="ug_Arab" populationPercent="0.0094" references="R1165"/>                <!--Uyghur (Arabic)-->
                                                <languagePopulation type="kk_Arab" populationPercent="0.0063" references="R1119"/>                <!--Kazakh (Arabic)-->
                                </territory>

...and in core/common/main/en.xml, I see some (but not all) of those language tags mapped to their English names, e.g.:
                        <language type="fa">Persian</language>
                        <language type="ps">Pashto</language>
                        <language type="uz">Uzbek</language>
                        <language type="tk">Turkmen</language>
                        <language type="bal">Baluchi</language>
                        <language type="ug">Uyghur</language>
                        <language type="kk">Kazakh</language>

Missing from that file (and missing from all the files in core/common/main) are entries for "haz" and "prd".  Should they be there?  If not, where should I find them?

In case it helps, here's the version info. from the core/common/main/en.xml that I'm using:
                                <version number="$Revision: 11348 $"/>
                                <generation date="$Date: 2015-03-05 01:15:52 -0600 (Thu, 05 Mar 2015) $"/>

...and here's the version of core/common/supplemental/supplementalData.xml that I'm using:
    <version number="$Revision: 11318 $"/>
    <generation date="$Date: 2015-02-25 23:47:56 -0600 (Wed, 25 Feb 2015) $"/>

Thanks!


Cheers,
Christopher

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From mark at macchiato.com  Mon Sep 14 13:56:09 2015
From: mark at macchiato.com (=?UTF-8?B?TWFyayBEYXZpcyDimJXvuI8=?=)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2015 20:56:09 +0200
Subject: Missing some language names?
In-Reply-To: <2f08474732424672ad9ade2c136aa530@wob-maildb-03.agfamonotype.org>
References: <2f08474732424672ad9ade2c136aa530@wob-maildb-03.agfamonotype.org>
Message-ID: <CAJ2xs_HMsDA8f2XpGPJ0YrZcasdF-27Mkd6LS+dAVXy8e66oCQ@mail.gmail.com>

There is no requirement that all language codes that are used in any CLDR
file have translations.

English names are always available as a backup in the language subtag
registry, should one desire.


Mark <https://google.com/+MarkDavis>

*? Il meglio ? l?inimico del bene ?*

On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 7:49 PM, Chapman, Christopher <
Christopher.Chapman at monotype.com> wrote:

> Hi Folks,
>
>
>
> I?m just starting to use the CLDR and I apologize if this is a na?ve
> question, but should I be able to find mappings of all the language tags
> used in the CLDR to their full names in the <Languages> sections of the
> files in core/common/main (e.g. core/common/main/en.xml)?  I ask, because I
> found only some of them there, not all of them.
>
>
>
> For example, in core/common/supplemental/supplementalData.xml, I see
> entries like this:
>
>                                 <territory type="AF" gdp="45300000000"
> literacyPercent="28.1" population="31822800">           <!--Afghanistan-->
>
>                                                 <languagePopulation
> type="fa" populationPercent="50" officialStatus="official"/>
> <!--Persian-->
>
>                                                 <languagePopulation
> type="ps" populationPercent="43" officialStatus="official"
> references="R1055"/>  <!--Pashto-->
>
>                                                 <languagePopulation
> type="haz" populationPercent="5.9"/>     <!--Hazaragi-->
>
>                                                 <languagePopulation
> type="uz_Arab" populationPercent="4.7"
> officialStatus="official_regional"/>          <!--Uzbek (Arabic)-->
>
>                                                 <languagePopulation
> type="tk_Latn" populationPercent="1.7"
> officialStatus="official_regional"/>          <!--Turkmen (Latin)-->
>
>                                                 <languagePopulation
> type="prd" populationPercent="1.2"/>     <!--Parsi-Dari-->
>
>                                                 <languagePopulation
> type="bal" populationPercent="0.67"
> officialStatus="official_regional"/>          <!--Baluchi-->
>
>                                                 <languagePopulation
> type="ug_Arab" populationPercent="0.0094"
> references="R1165"/>                <!--Uyghur (Arabic)-->
>
>                                                 <languagePopulation
> type="kk_Arab" populationPercent="0.0063"
> references="R1119"/>                <!--Kazakh (Arabic)-->
>
>                                 </territory>
>
>
>
> ?and in core/common/main/en.xml, I see some (but not all) of those
> language tags mapped to their English names, e.g.:
>
>                         <language type="fa">Persian</language>
>
>                         <language type="ps">Pashto</language>
>
>                         <language type="uz">Uzbek</language>
>
>                         <language type="tk">Turkmen</language>
>
>                         <language type="bal">Baluchi</language>
>
>                         <language type="ug">Uyghur</language>
>
>                         <language type="kk">Kazakh</language>
>
>
>
> Missing from that file (and missing from all the files in
> core/common/main) are entries for ?haz? and ?prd?.  Should they be there?
> If not, where should I find them?
>
>
>
> In case it helps, here?s the version info. from the
> core/common/main/en.xml that I?m using:
>
>                                 <version number="$Revision: 11348 $"/>
>
>                                 <generation date="$Date: 2015-03-05
> 01:15:52 -0600 (Thu, 05 Mar 2015) $"/>
>
>
>
> ?and here?s the version of core/common/supplemental/supplementalData.xml
> that I?m using:
>
>     <version number="$Revision: 11318 $"/>
>
>     <generation date="$Date: 2015-02-25 23:47:56 -0600 (Wed, 25 Feb 2015)
> $"/>
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Christopher
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> CLDR-Users mailing list
> CLDR-Users at unicode.org
> http://unicode.org/mailman/listinfo/cldr-users
>
>
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From isaac.jurado at roiback.com  Mon Sep 28 19:19:18 2015
From: isaac.jurado at roiback.com (Isaac Jurado)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2015 02:19:18 +0200
Subject: Where is the Kurdish locale?
Message-ID: <CA+nEE_GywEdCfTs5D5e+=ERPuu3mfm38_v5XvGmNLtOqucoaog@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

After reviewing the following URL:

http://cldr.unicode.org/index/cldr-spec/picking-the-right-language-code

I'm a bit confused regarding the mentions to the Kurdish locale.
Specially since I was unable to find any XML file in the CLDR
distribution named "ku.xml" nor anything similar.

Am I looking in the wrong place?

Best regards.

-- 
Isaac Jurado
I+D Senior Web Developer
ROIBACK
T. (+34) 971 406 149
E. isaac.jurado at roiback.com
http://www.roiback.com

From mark at macchiato.com  Tue Sep 29 02:28:44 2015
From: mark at macchiato.com (=?UTF-8?B?TWFyayBEYXZpcyDimJXvuI8=?=)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2015 09:28:44 +0200
Subject: Where is the Kurdish locale?
In-Reply-To: <CA+nEE_GywEdCfTs5D5e+=ERPuu3mfm38_v5XvGmNLtOqucoaog@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+nEE_GywEdCfTs5D5e+=ERPuu3mfm38_v5XvGmNLtOqucoaog@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJ2xs_EQ4K=DDkYP3ZZV7fdjpcsPt0VdVAwizUt-QerevivmZA@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 2:19 AM, Isaac Jurado <isaac.jurado at roiback.com>
wrote:

> I'm a bit confused regarding the mentions to the Kurdish locale.
> Specially since I was unable to find any XML file in the CLDR
> distribution named "ku.xml" nor anything similar.
>

?CLDR has Central Kurdish (ckb), but not Northern Kurdish (ku)?.

See http://www.unicode.org/cldr/charts/latest/summary/root.html

There is a ku.xml in the /seed/ directory but the data is not sufficient,
nor is it sufficiently validated, to warrant inclusion into the /common/
directory.

Mark <https://google.com/+MarkDavis>

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From isaac.jurado at roiback.com  Tue Sep 29 02:39:36 2015
From: isaac.jurado at roiback.com (Isaac Jurado)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2015 09:39:36 +0200
Subject: Where is the Kurdish locale?
In-Reply-To: <CAJ2xs_EQ4K=DDkYP3ZZV7fdjpcsPt0VdVAwizUt-QerevivmZA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+nEE_GywEdCfTs5D5e+=ERPuu3mfm38_v5XvGmNLtOqucoaog@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAJ2xs_EQ4K=DDkYP3ZZV7fdjpcsPt0VdVAwizUt-QerevivmZA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA+nEE_EX4s5iAoKGjP2xZH6K0_mrF3B0uUpX8pWVsTLZ1Es01A@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 9:28 AM, Mark Davis ?? <mark at macchiato.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 2:19 AM, Isaac Jurado <isaac.jurado at roiback.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> I'm a bit confused regarding the mentions to the Kurdish locale.
>> Specially since I was unable to find any XML file in the CLDR
>> distribution named "ku.xml" nor anything similar.
>
>
> CLDR has Central Kurdish (ckb), but not Northern Kurdish (ku).
>
> See http://www.unicode.org/cldr/charts/latest/summary/root.html
>
> There is a ku.xml in the /seed/ directory but the data is not
> sufficient, nor is it sufficiently validated, to warrant inclusion
> into the /common/ directory.

Oh, now I see it.  Thank you very much.  Then I believe it is a matter
of time and public interest to "promote" the "ku" locale into the
/common/ directory:

    http://cldr.unicode.org/index/process

Thanks again.  Best regards.

-- 
Isaac Jurado
I+D Senior Web Developer
ROIBACK
T. (+34) 971 406 149
E. isaac.jurado at roiback.com
http://www.roiback.com


From mark at macchiato.com  Tue Sep 29 05:03:41 2015
From: mark at macchiato.com (=?UTF-8?B?TWFyayBEYXZpcyDimJXvuI8=?=)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2015 12:03:41 +0200
Subject: Where is the Kurdish locale?
In-Reply-To: <CA+nEE_EX4s5iAoKGjP2xZH6K0_mrF3B0uUpX8pWVsTLZ1Es01A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+nEE_GywEdCfTs5D5e+=ERPuu3mfm38_v5XvGmNLtOqucoaog@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAJ2xs_EQ4K=DDkYP3ZZV7fdjpcsPt0VdVAwizUt-QerevivmZA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CA+nEE_EX4s5iAoKGjP2xZH6K0_mrF3B0uUpX8pWVsTLZ1Es01A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJ2xs_GWYzTDbhmXoW_vBRDa6dxvWFbezVeKYWd1b6gpTVdhQA@mail.gmail.com>

The key to doing that is to get people from Kurdish organizations involved
in contributing to ku data. There are a number of other languages where
volunteer groups organize to contribute the data for their languages.


Mark <https://google.com/+MarkDavis>

*? Il meglio ? l?inimico del bene ?*

On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 9:39 AM, Isaac Jurado <isaac.jurado at roiback.com>
wrote:

> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 9:28 AM, Mark Davis ?? <mark at macchiato.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 2:19 AM, Isaac Jurado <isaac.jurado at roiback.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> I'm a bit confused regarding the mentions to the Kurdish locale.
> >> Specially since I was unable to find any XML file in the CLDR
> >> distribution named "ku.xml" nor anything similar.
> >
> >
> > CLDR has Central Kurdish (ckb), but not Northern Kurdish (ku).
> >
> > See http://www.unicode.org/cldr/charts/latest/summary/root.html
> >
> > There is a ku.xml in the /seed/ directory but the data is not
> > sufficient, nor is it sufficiently validated, to warrant inclusion
> > into the /common/ directory.
>
> Oh, now I see it.  Thank you very much.  Then I believe it is a matter
> of time and public interest to "promote" the "ku" locale into the
> /common/ directory:
>
>     http://cldr.unicode.org/index/process
>
> Thanks again.  Best regards.
>
> --
> Isaac Jurado
> I+D Senior Web Developer
> ROIBACK
> T. (+34) 971 406 149
> E. isaac.jurado at roiback.com
> http://www.roiback.com
>
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