Time zones: the localized GMT formats

Philippe Verdy verdy_p at wanadoo.fr
Sat Mar 14 23:09:44 CDT 2015


I suppose that the "short" form will differentiate from the non short form,
only by stripping zeroes

So "UTC+3" is the short form of "UTC+03:00", and the "short" form for
"UTC+03:30" is ONLY "UTC+3:30".

(the extra comment about the possibility of precision in seconds seems not
needed for standard timezones, it is unnecessarily verbose : the normal
form uses BOTH the hours AND minutes, preferably in fixed format with extra
zeroes and the appropriate localized separator between hours and minutes)


2015-03-14 3:24 GMT+01:00 Shervin Afshar <shervinafshar at gmail.com>:

> This is entirely up to you, but I'm personally having a hard time seeing
>> the value of a "short" time format with just hours and no minutes.
>
>
> Not to mention the confusion this would cause with time-zones with
> fractions of an hour; e.g. Tehran UTC+3:30 != Moscow UTC+3.
>
> ↪ Shervin
>
> On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 7:52 AM, Doug Ewell <doug at ewellic.org> wrote:
>
>> Jon Zeppieri <zeppieri at gmail dot com> wrote:
>>
>> > More troubling, however, is that in the general case, I don't know how
>> > to generate the short form using this data. While it's easy to strip
>> > out the "mm" portion of this when it's not needed, I don't know, in
>> > general, how to deal with separators or possibly literal portions of
>> > this pattern that should be removed along with the "mm." For example,
>> > in this particular case, I know that I'd have to remove the colon
>> > before the minute pattern, but I imagine that a locale could use
>> > something like: "HH 'hours', mm 'minutes'," and I would not know to
>> > remove the entirety of ", mm 'minutes'" without treating it as a
>> > special case.
>>
>> This is entirely up to you, but I'm personally having a hard time seeing
>> the value of a "short" time format with just hours and no minutes. Many
>> people would see that as shortened to the point of being unusable.
>>
>> I realize this is orthogonal to your question.
>>
>> --
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